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Kirjutas Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 17:04

"self-serbwall", which would in fact not be legal (he said it!).

Serbwall is completely destroying enemy 3 unit wall and making your own wall around the same city the same turn. I have no idea how situation in the screenshot would be "self-serbwall".
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Kirjutas Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 16:36

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I don't understand why you're maintaining this hostility toward me, but feel free to continue your witch-hunt and boycott if that's what makes you happy.


"I'm not sure why you're trying to create conflict here. I simply responded to your comments in your post. I clearly stated that I don't approve of wf t1, rewall, or serbwall, but I do use and approve of the Huarck wall when used against me." I responded to your comments aswell. I don't know what the end of this paragraph has to do with what i said, but I can say I do not approve the use of the Huarckwall when used against me.

"You're free to boycott CWs with me if you wish, but consider whether it's smart or justified." Smart? Yes because I won't accept playing against someone that is sketchy. Justified? OFC.

"The competitive scene survives thanks to just 10 active players, and your reason for boycotting seems to be that you lost." That's not the reason i'm boycotting and it just seems that u are completly forgotting the main post. 10 active players? I can count more than that.
Belligerent 5: Me, Niels, Panda , IHY and Zappa,
BD 2 : Blade, Dominicano
Hellenism 4: Brutal, Khauman, Almighty and Lokua
Enigma 3: Tempest, Dominoz, Lucifer
Prestige 7: Tung, Alpen, 1122, Vink, BeSerok, Styx Doktor and you.
Paradox 2: Lelouch, Croat.
That is 23 players. 24 If u count Kogi who just deleted his account. This was off the top of my head, Could have missed someone aswell. 23 players in the scene and you still do sketchy things for your own benefit. Same with the rangebug, there is almost no scene and you still are doing this, cws are more for fun than anything else, not really to compete.

"You accused me of rewalling, even though your own screenshot shows I didn't move my wall. After I explained that it wasn't rewalling, you made this post." Well you muted me so I had no way of reaching you. You were rather offended by the fact that I said I accused of a rewall.

"Tempest even explained and made videos showing you a similar situation, and you eventually admitted that you hadn't seen the mechanic I used before." I asked him personally for it and you can see i'm the one breaking the wall in his video. The only reason he made the video was because I asked to have someone to test it with. By the way, he ended up saying it was a "self-serbwall", which would in fact not be legal (he said it!).

"Instead of thanking me for teaching you a new move, you created this drama." Yeah thank you Pavle for teaching me to do a sketchy mechanic. Didn't thank you before. The drama is because I could not fucking reach you for more questions. Oh, and even then I would still have made the post because this doesn't sit right with me.

"If you played more CWs and less 1k gambling, you might have learned about the Huarck wall sooner." Don't think so, because by the time I played a lot of 1k duels was at the season with 3 CWs played all season. Oh, and I still cw'ed whenever I could, Refering to last season where there was some activity after all. Oh, and I wouldn't have learnt about the Huarckwall because you are the only fucking person in this game who does it (And still plays). Maybe someone did it in the past and still plays but they no longer do it.

"I responded in good faith to explain my stance on the mechanic's legality because you asked me to." I would have been surprised if you would have been against the mechanic's legality. Your stance was clear when u did it in a CW. This post was more for asking general opinions, and showing the evidence.

"I don't understand why you're maintaining this hostility toward me, but feel free to continue your witch-hunt and boycott if that's what makes you happy." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ps: U edited ur post zzz, I won't answer any of your bullcrap again. For me this issue is done, and you are defending the indefendable.
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Kirjutas Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 15:26

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I'm not sure why you're trying to create conflict here. I simply responded to your comments in your post. I am playing to win, and wanted to give you a clear reply regarding what you should and shouldn't expect from me in cw. When I say I play to win, I want to highlight that it does not mean I would not give a tie to a clan over sincere connection problems or similiar issues. I also clearly stated that I don't approve of wf t1, rewall, or serbwall, but I do use and approve of the Huarck wall when used against me. We never even spoke about not allowing the use of huarck wall before. I myself have been farmed by huarck using his own huarck wall. I even malded at him at first, we all have weak moments and decide to give in to anger and rage. I moved on and learnt the move myself.

I have no interest in arguing with you. You're free to boycott CWs with me if you wish, but consider whether it's smart or justified. The competitive scene survives thanks to just 10 active players, and your reason for boycotting seems to be that you lost. You accused me of rewalling, even though your own screenshot shows I didn't move my wall. After I explained that it wasn't rewalling, you made this post. Tempest even explained and made videos showing you a similar situation, and you eventually admitted that you hadn't seen the mechanic I used before. Instead of thanking me for teaching you a new move, you started the drama.
Ultimately, this issue arose from your own lack of familiarity with the certain game mechanic. If you played more CWs and less 1k gambling, you might have learned about the Huarck wall sooner. I responded in good faith to explain my stance on the mechanic's legality because you asked me to.

I don't understand why you're maintaining this hostility toward me, but feel free to continue your witch-hunt and boycott if that's what makes you happy.

Few useful links regarding all this useless and unnecessary drama:
[2022] CW Season Rules
Common Courtesy Guidelines 2.0
Do we seriously have to do this, again? (Khau-WD Drama and Dave's reply)

P.S And really, comparing browser-based game drama to rape?
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For casual games, I like having multiple allies, and believe in the standard ally cap(3). Not everyone bothers reading PMs, but when playing with several allies who do, I can coordinate plans, which is rather fun.

I'm not sure if more than 3 is really necessary. I haven't played many games with more than 3 allowed, but I feel like 4+ allies is usually excessive. After you have 3 allies, maybe people would want to join you, but unless there's a single massive player or another coalition, I'm not convinced that you would usually want them to join you.

I think that the standard 3 allies might be sufficient in most cases. There may be some massive custom maps where you would want to have lots of players, in which case more is perhaps warranted.

Given that in the early game, many/most players end up loosing/leaving, and in the mid game, you're probably down to under 10 players already(and the end game is probably down to 2 or 6), I see no point in having more than 3 alliances. I suppose that if 1 very good player(or perhaps a player who got extremely lucky) ends up dominating the map, a large coalition of average/less lucky players could have reason to form, but it otherwise sounds pointless.

Objectively speaking, if you ignore a few exceptions, if you are going for an ally cap of 4+, why not simply play a team game?


Regarding lower ally caps: I don't believe in them, since in casual games, people time out rather often, and then you have an unbalanced game, meaning an alliance is sometimes the only way to rebalance the game. I also think it's acceptable for a few less experienced players to ally against a higher ranked one(though I wouldn't say that if everyone in the game was reasonably high ranked or at least very good).
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O.ç huarck stole my 40 elo with that inbred rewall
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Will do anything to get his supporter badge #TEMP4SUPPORTER
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12.10.2024 postituses Map Editor
Hey welcome to atWar! Sorry to hear that you are having trouble, for the red-zones, I would make sure that you don't have the "no-go" option selected. Then I would make sure that the air units you are using are not locked behind upgrades (the ones you unlock with SP).

I will be help you more if you publish your map and provide me with the name
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Kirjutas Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 14:36

I give you green light to do this against me.
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As GF said, Huarck used to do huarckwall for years, and would still do it if he was active. He is not the only one, I am using them aswell. I am not the only one either.



Ok, I will start to rewall WF t1 and serbwall, anyways I give the greenlight for everyone to do it aswell !



Regarding the Dave statement from over 2 years ago, I will quote him." I'm just talking in general that we shouldn't have rules about walls to begin with." So, by this statement, this should mean that rewall serbwall and wf t1 shouldn't be illegal in his opinion. Just keep that in mind.



and as for the final statement, I find it similar to what I told Evqze today. https://prnt.sc/UBmQxHsTrMhN



By the way, Belligerent won't cw against you any longer. This tactic is sketchy as fuck, and we don't want to cw against someone that does this. This shouldn't be a problem to Prestige anyways since they are the most active clan in the game.



Ps: I find it disgusting that the head supporter is doing this sort of gray area things. Even more so when u come of a 1 month ban for abusing a range bug. IMO it should have been permanent, and even more so I completly disagree on the fact that you somehow kept your position. But that's not up to me, that's on Dave probably.
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Kirjutas Frieren, 12.10.2024 at 14:56

Oh i see why range bug is legal now, time to abuse because i dont have to do anything with the console or code


The range bug should be fixed urgently as it is easy to replicate but for a person who doesn't have time to look at the battle screen or doesn't know about these things, it is an unfair advantage.
I personally would rather do my turn than spend 2 minutes on the battle screen.
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I think that at this point every game should be recorded, it's impossible to know if someone did something intentionally or not, I could say that I didn't want that wall but deep down, I know that I did it to gain an unfair advantage. Not everyone reads the rules or knows about these things.
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12.10.2024 postituses Casual Saturdays
Casual Saturday #10 - The Imperial's GoT Remastered
Westeros only - Default settings
https://atwar-game.com/games/?link=8318362574
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Kirjutas Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 14:36

I give you green light to do this against me.
I will do everything legal to win the game, as long as it is not: serb wall, rewall, t1 wf.
Always have that in premise when playing against me.
Aside from that, I am not going to defend myself - I did not do anything we consider wrong there. As for legality of the huarck wall, I will quote Dave:
Kirjutas Dave, 20.03.2022 at 21:47

As far as game mechanics goes.... if the game lets you do it, it's legal. (I mean if it lets you without opening your browser console or hacking code -- that's different, obviously.)



We agreed even during the previous ownership of the game that we do not allow rewall, serbwall, wf t1 in cw. As GF said, Huarck used to do huarckwall for years, and would still do it if he was active. He is not the only one, I am using them aswell. I am not the only one either.

Oh i see why range bug is legal now, time to abuse because i dont have to do anything with the console or code
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I give you green light to do this against me.
I will do everything legal to win the game, as long as it is not: serb wall, rewall, t1 wf.
Always have that in premise when playing against me.
Aside from that, I am not going to defend myself - I did not do anything we consider wrong there. As for legality of the huarck wall, I will quote Dave:
Kirjutas Dave, 20.03.2022 at 21:47

As far as game mechanics goes.... if the game lets you do it, it's legal. (I mean if it lets you without opening your browser console or hacking code -- that's different, obviously.)

We're not going to make any new rules about walls. I don't want to get into the business of judging whether one end is a few pixels too far, blah blah blah. Rewalls, serbwalls, wallfucks t1 -- so what. That's just the nature of the game.

...And for the record it's pretty clear WD didn't do anything wrong here, I'm just talking in general that we shouldn't have rules about walls to begin with. Then we wouldn't have these stupid arguments.

We agreed even during the previous ownership of the game that we do not allow rewall, serbwall, wf t1 in cw. As GF said, Huarck used to do huarckwall for years, and would still do it if he was active. He is not the only one, I am using them aswell. I am not the only one either.
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12.10.2024 postituses Bets are open!!!
I like the idea, I will forward it to Dave.

P.S Spam sascha to move this to ideas forum
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12.10.2024 postituses Bets are open!!!
Kirjutas tempest (bw fan), 12.10.2024 at 12:32

I dont wanna end up like jugers, thanks

Jugers tells his greetings to you.
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Kawaii little argentinan very pro at lw ukraine and known for being mysterious and nonchalant
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12.10.2024 postituses Bets are open!!!
Good idea, strange considering it comes from Dominicano
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12.10.2024 postituses Bets are open!!!
I dont wanna end up like jugers, thanks
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12.10.2024 postituses Bets are open!!!
I propose a bet button for 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 games where players place their bet before starting the game and at the end of each game the winner or winners take the accumulated lot, I think that with something like this the competitive ones even the cw they would be more interesting....
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How many allies do you think makes the perfect game? Or, do you feel that the best games have no allies at all? Let me know and I will set up future games based on your response.
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Moldova 1k player ewww I prefer to take a bath rather than be one trick poney 6 million mastery points Moldova 1k player
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Otaku, person who doesn't shower
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My favorite bolivian
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What he said describes him perfectly
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This has to be the CW of the year, and to think I decided to let Lokua play over me D
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Kirjutas Captain WF. Call, 12.10.2024 at 02:13

This clanwar took place last month. It was me as UK, Vink as Ukraine, Zappa as Germany, and Lokua as Turk. My all (vink) died early on, and I begin a brutal 15+ slowroll, culminating in a surprise stealth attack on Ankara, resulting in me winning the game without holding Madrid, Paris, Rome, or Berlin. I spent 2 hours editing this video, so please enjoy.

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12.10.2024 postituses Map Editor
Hey guys ! I need your help, i have the prenium, so i create a very good map to play with my friends, but there are so bug, when i go to the editor evrything is okay, but when i start a game in this map there are a lot of unspecified red zones that I created which do not appear... and i dont know why but i can't create some units like fighters and air transport in any city (and any countries), that said "no yet unlocked".
Thank you to respond
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This clanwar took place last month. It was me as UK, Vink as Ukraine, Zappa as Germany, and Lokua as Turk. My all (vink) died early on, and I begin a brutal 15+ slowroll, culminating in a surprise stealth attack on Ankara, resulting in me winning the game without holding Madrid, Paris, Rome, or Berlin. I spent 2 hours editing this video, so please enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih0jKnnlwrg
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