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Postitatud Unleashed, 14.07.2015 - 06:02
I have no ideology. I am interested in personal freedom. The moment you, or some people you voted start telling me what I must believe and what I must do by force (and this is by default), we have a problem.

Does that mean there should be no rules? Absolutely not. There should be rules. There should be no rulers. That's where you idiots miss the point.

Does that mean nobody will lead the company or the bank?

Of course not. It is a private ownership. What it means tho is that you won't be able to impose your bullshit on people or send them over the ocean to die for your oil.
17.07.2015 - 05:39
Kirjutas Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:02




A few questions for Professor Unleashed.

1. Do you think the world should have 1 unified government? Justify your answer.
2. Do you think public holidays be culturally(not religiously) influenced? Why?
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17.07.2015 - 05:40
Kirjutas Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:27

Do you need a "leader" to know it's wrong to commit a crime?

Are you that stupid that you cannot differentiate between the two?

Tree branches of government:
• legislature - does who prescribe the laws and name what are crimes and offenses
• executive - does who enforce rules given by the legislature
• judiciary - does who decide if the rule was broken
All tree branches serve as watchers over another so that neither has total control in government.

How will you know what is a crime if there isn't a consent among people on what crime is... and how will you enforce this "consent on what is right and wrong" when 2 people can barely agree, let alone millions.
Finally... if someone does wrong you, who will you seek to defend your rights? You going to take a gun and make your own "justice"?

Now tell me, where is the limit... at what point do you take a gun to defend your rights? What happens when that limit is not consentual yet again among you and another guy ...yet alone, millions of people.

Your ideas and words are... basic, with no follow up plan on how to deal with a situation, or what situation would arise from anarcho-capitalism.
Your freedom is only freedom to the richest and does that hold the gun... to everyone else it would be slavery.
Your personal individual freedom... would instantly become, survival for does who join bigger stronger groups and does who wouldn't want to follow or obey would quickly perish.... making your ideology really ironic and funny.
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17.07.2015 - 14:57
Kirjutas Unleashed, 17.07.2015 at 02:27

Kirjutas Gandalf The Jew, 16.07.2015 at 17:16

Kirjutas Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:02

There should be rules. There should be no rulers.

B-but how?


Do you need a "leader" to know it's wrong to commit a crime?

Are you that stupid that you cannot differentiate between the two?

No, I am not, but some people are and they need guidance, if there was no authority, like courthouses and police and all that shit criminality would go way up since nothing stops you from doing what you intend to do.
Think of it as if it was a newborn, babies don't know what's wrong and what's right, if you have no-one to show you authority, like your parents, you will never have moral standarts, good ones at least. So in a way, if you have a society with no 'leader' no one is going to tell you what you can and can't do, like rape or murder, they are crimes, society will go crazy, since for many people moral means and they would committee crimes simply because they were not illegal anymore.
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17.07.2015 - 16:51
Kirjutas Unleashed, 14.07.2015 at 06:31

Different definitions of freedom LOL

freedom isn't something subjective. You're either free or you're not

We are not.

freedom is a state of mind.
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19.07.2015 - 14:17
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Kirjutas International, 16.07.2015 at 20:13

Kirjutas brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 13:37

in analysis of this, i'm becoming even more convinced that rights are a fiction - a figment of the imagination. i can define the responsibility... but i can't define a right. Can you give a concrete example of a right?

The right to a fair and free trial, for one. Which means that someone has to shoulder the responsibility of giving you one.


alright... who decides if the trial is 'fair and free'... based on the best knowledge i have available, it isn't the individual being tried.
also, if die at the hands of someone else through brutality not inflicted on myself, i don't have this right. for that matter, no one who is killed has the right to trial.

but i see what you're saying... there are no doubt 'rights stated by government' - but these are not individual rights.
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19.07.2015 - 14:49
Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 14:17

no one who is killed has the right to trial.

Brian, you high or something?... because i'm not sure should i put this in my signature or print it, frame it and nail it at the wall in my college. xD
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19.07.2015 - 14:54
Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 14:17

Kirjutas International, 16.07.2015 at 20:13

Kirjutas brianwl, 16.07.2015 at 13:37



no one who is killed has the right to trial.


you're right, they don't because they're dead
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19.07.2015 - 15:10
Ok guys i will name you one right a dead man has... right for his body to be undisturbed and unmolested (necrophilia etc.)
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19.07.2015 - 15:30
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Kirjutas Goblin, 19.07.2015 at 14:49

Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 14:17

no one who is killed has the right to trial.

Brian, you high or something?... because i'm not sure should i put this in my signature or print it, frame it and nail it at the wall in my college. xD



Lol... so my point (so blunt it seems rather absurd) is that if you don't have the right to life, you don't have the right to any of the other rights, and so they must be illusions... in other words, all the 'rights' you claim to have aren't really rights - as demonstrated when you're dead. ..

So yeah, i guess i AM high =D
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19.07.2015 - 16:14
Kirjutas Goblin, 19.07.2015 at 15:10

right for his body to be undisturbed and unmolested (necrophilia etc.)


oh really? When a person dies, its own bodies enzymes start attacking the cells. The cells, once living become a foul brown soup now that make the skin rot and open up like a flower. Flies start laying eggs there and to every other hole they can find. Maggots also join the party, by infiltrating under the skin and start munching whats left of the organs. After that bacteria form, which begin to break down the tissues of the body that produce in turn the worst kind of gas imaginable, with the smell of dying death that makes the belly tongue and genitals bloat like a balloon. when the body rots enough, the death gas manage to escape and make the whole room smell of spring. After that, the last mans standing, which are the lungs, brain and stomach and the dead shit thats been there for weeks start to liquefy and become a tasty death cocktail, that scientists call death mojito because its also green and slimmy and has a taste so foul and disgusting that cannot be described in any language available to humans.

Now after all this shit, you mean to say that my clean, shaved, uncircumsized, beatifull cock is gonna "disturb" the dead body?

lol you are crazy man.. fuck you.
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19.07.2015 - 16:17
Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 15:30

if you don't have the right to life, you don't have the right to any of the other rights, and so they must be illusions...

Who told you that you don't have a right to life?... its a basic human right written down in UN declarations, constitutions and laws.

Only reason people get punished when they kill someone is because they violated the victims right.... a crime written down in the criminal law and with prescribed punishment.
Of course, if i go on a shooting spree and threaten other peoples lives... police has the authority (in their restrictions and rules) to end mine.
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19.07.2015 - 16:20
Kirjutas Khal.eesi, 19.07.2015 at 16:14

lol you are crazy man.. fuck you.

Sorry khal... i didn't know situation in Greece is so hard that you can't even afford to take care of the bodies of your deceased and give them a proper burial.

...wait! Is that the reason you don't report when your family members die? I thought it was because you like to collect their pensions even years after their death.
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19.07.2015 - 16:24
Expecting a huge rage response with a lot of swearing and mentioning how Persians still didn't pay you war damages from Greco-Persian wars.
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19.07.2015 - 16:27
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Kirjutas Goblin, 19.07.2015 at 16:17

Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 15:30

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Who told you that you don't have a right to life?... its a basic human right written down in UN declarations, constitutions and laws.

Only reason people get punished when they kill someone is because they violated the victims right.... a crime written down in the criminal law and with prescribed punishment.
Of course, if i go on a shooting spree and threaten other peoples lives... police has the authority (in their restrictions and rules) to end mine.


Who said you had a right to life? You don't have a right to life... anyone can kill you anytime... there may be consequences for them killing you, but the UN doesn't grant you that right, since that 'alleged' right can be taken away by anyone... lunatic, obsessed ex-lover, assassin, polar bear who didn't sign UN convention, ebola virus, etc etc...

again, i understand 'governments can state you have rights' so you feel all cozy and warm as you drift off to dreamland, trying to justify your government, but you don't actually have the right to life, as there are agents that can kill you (some with consequences, some with none.)
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19.07.2015 - 16:31
Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 16:27

again, i understand 'governments can state you have rights' so you feel all cozy and warm as you drift off to dreamland, trying to justify your government, but you don't actually have the right to life, as there are agents that can kill you (some with consequences, some with none.)

Well good thing is... looking at your profile picture... you already have a tin foil hat.
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19.07.2015 - 16:34
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Well good thing is... looking at your profile picture... you already have a tin foil hat.


lol - Gotta have some protection man ♥
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19.07.2015 - 16:40
Kirjutas Goblin, 19.07.2015 at 16:20

Kirjutas Khal.eesi, 19.07.2015 at 16:14

lol you are crazy man.. fuck you.

Sorry khal... i didn't know situation in Greece is so hard that you can't even afford to take care of the bodies of your deceased and give them a proper burial.

...wait! Is that the reason you don't report when your family members die? I thought it was because you like to collect their pensions even years after they die.


Sorry to inform you, but the process i described is the natural process your body goes through after death. Its nature. And its irrelevant to as if you are gonna be burried or not, its gonna happen. You can attempt to humour all you want, but the truth is that when you die goblin, on your 3rd day, during the putrefaction stage, the gas are gonna literally make you shit your intestines through your ass.. Have fun

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19.07.2015 - 16:41
Bahaha damn persians! i know!
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19.07.2015 - 22:15
Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 16:27

Who said you had a right to life? You don't have a right to life... anyone can kill you anytime... there may be consequences for them killing you, but the UN doesn't grant you that right, since that 'alleged' right can be taken away by anyone... lunatic, obsessed ex-lover, assassin, polar bear who didn't sign UN convention, ebola virus, etc etc...

again, i understand 'governments can state you have rights' so you feel all cozy and warm as you drift off to dreamland, trying to justify your government, but you don't actually have the right to life, as there are agents that can kill you (some with consequences, some with none.)

The #1 short-term way to lower murder rates is to flood the streets with more policemen. The #1 long-term way to lower murder rates is to decrease unemployment.

The first is provided by the Police Department (government), and the latter is one of the points of having a monetary policy (government).

Nothing is perfect... but the State is good at protecting rights.
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23.07.2015 - 06:21
 brianwl (Admin)
Kirjutas International, 19.07.2015 at 22:15

Kirjutas brianwl, 19.07.2015 at 16:27

Who said you had a right to life? You don't have a right to life... anyone can kill you anytime... there may be consequences for them killing you, but the UN doesn't grant you that right, since that 'alleged' right can be taken away by anyone... lunatic, obsessed ex-lover, assassin, polar bear who didn't sign UN convention, ebola virus, etc etc...

again, i understand 'governments can state you have rights' so you feel all cozy and warm as you drift off to dreamland, trying to justify your government, but you don't actually have the right to life, as there are agents that can kill you (some with consequences, some with none.)

The #1 short-term way to lower murder rates is to flood the streets with more policemen. The #1 long-term way to lower murder rates is to decrease unemployment.

The first is provided by the Police Department (government), and the latter is one of the points of having a monetary policy (government).

Nothing is perfect... but the State is good at protecting rights.


The data isn't consistent with this... it has long been observed that Mennonite societies have essentially 0 murder rate, and no police.
i can agree, that in a group of murderers, higher policing would likely reduce the murder numbers.

i personally want nothing to do with police, given they work for the state/crown prosecutors, and guilt or innocence is irrelevant to them... they care about winning cases, and so police now habitually falsify evidence in order to assist the prosecutor's conviction rates. (Which ironically, is consistent with the incentives you mentioned in another post.)
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23.07.2015 - 06:44
Kirjutas International, 19.07.2015 at 22:15

The #1 long-term way to lower murder rates is to decrease unemployment.


HAHAHAHA

How little you know.
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23.07.2015 - 18:14
Kirjutas International, 19.07.2015 at 22:15
The #1 short-term way to lower murder rates is to flood the streets with more policemen. The #1 long-term way to lower murder rates is to decrease unemployment.


No, the #1 way to lower murder rates is to deport African Americans. That is a cold hard undeniable fact. 48.5% of homicides in the USA are committed by it's black citizens. If you want to define the argument in what would bring about the better short and long term outcome, that is the real #1.

Decreasing unemployment has little to do with it compared to Feminism, Immigration, Civil Rights act and lack of standards. Poverty does not lead to high crime, otherwise post WWII Europe would have been riddled with high homicide.

Protip- It wasn't.
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25.07.2015 - 02:00
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Kirjutas Tik-Tok, 23.07.2015 at 18:14

No, the #1 way to lower murder rates is to deport African Americans. That is a cold hard undeniable fact. 48.5% of homicides in the USA are committed by it's black citizens. If you want to define the argument in what would bring about the better short and long term outcome, that is the real #1.

Correlation does not imply causation.
The more obvious explanation is that African Americans are usually poorer than their white counterparts, and thus have more turbulent lives conductive to crime, not to mention that city slums (which are usually dominated by African Americans) are generally less well policed.


Decreasing unemployment has little to do with it compared to Feminism, Immigration, Civil Rights act and lack of standards. Poverty does not lead to high crime, otherwise post WWII Europe would have been riddled with high homicide.

Immigration leads to higher crime for the same reason. Immigrants usually live less fortunate lives, and so commit more crimes. That sounds obvious enough.
By lack of standards, I assume you mean lack of moral standards. Well, probably yeah. Obviously if people have a weaker sense of morality, they are likely to commit more crimes.

"Feminism" is a catch-all term for a very wide variety of stances, so I can't comment on that. But I'd love to hear your explanation on how equal opportunity causes more crime. Same goes for the Civil Rights act. How does equal opportunity cause more crime?
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26.07.2015 - 17:22
Kirjutas International, 25.07.2015 at 02:00
Immigration leads to higher crime for the same reason. Immigrants usually live less fortunate lives, and so commit more crimes. That sounds obvious enough.


Then don't import poor immigrants with no skills. Only import people of value who will naturalize and will maintain social cohesion. In other words, only import skilled people of European origins and fast track people white people from the commonwealth. They are a near identical ethnic group who speak the same language.

Kirjutas International, 25.07.2015 at 02:00
By lack of standards, I assume you mean lack of moral standards. Well, probably yeah. Obviously if people have a weaker sense of morality, they are likely to commit more crimes.


No, standards in Education, work etc. Equality is bullshit, judge people on their work and ability, not feelings. Rebuild the standards that Western society once demanded.

Kirjutas International, 25.07.2015 at 02:00
"Feminism" is a catch-all term for a very wide variety of stances, so I can't comment on that. But I'd love to hear your explanation on how equal opportunity causes more crime. Same goes for the Civil Rights act. How does equal opportunity cause more crime?


Equal opportunities, another buzzterm. It's code for the elimination of voluntary association. Employers should employ who they want, buy and sell to whom they want. Its a code for enforcing 'diversity' in social housing which dumps poor blacks in decent white neighborhoods. It's a code for the destruction of cohesive stable functioning communities. It's a code for urbanization and a general declaration of war against rural america. It is nothing more than a policy designed to fracture america, cheapen property and prevent functioning networks competing with the establishment.

The simply cold truth is that the African American community is not as capable as its white counterpart. Prior to the Civil Rights Act, they compared their individual success to other successful blacks. When segregation ended, education and media claimed all are equal and they were no longer content with comparing themselves to their own tribe. They suddenly gained access to welfare, education and affirmative action gave them front line ques into fields they are not capable of entering into. Now, society dictates an unattainable goal for blacks which they can never achieve. This is a complicated subject. Suffice to say, equality and progressivsm has shown to be detrimental to everyone and there is zero proof of any benefit, at all.

South Africa should be a developed nation far out ranking everyone else according to your progressive social democratic doctrine. Instead, it went to complete shit. It is the only nation in the world to lose developed status. And in the process, crime skyrocketed and white people were murdered. Sound familiar?

Progressivism isn't 'progress'. Unless your progress leads to a hellish dystopia... then well done. Mission accomplished.
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30.07.2015 - 06:21
SO RADICAL and CRAZY

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