Why Atwar will die? Map Editing leave.

Hello guys,

I open this subject to yell. Indeed, this makes about 6 months that atwar changed a lot. With a new HTML 5 game. Good. Did you see that there are less fun game ? Less new maps? Do you know why ?
I have the map editor package, I can obviously create a new map, this is super fun. What is missing is that no only map editor can open their own game. They cannot Because admin don't want to make it possible for the moment.
I think this is a stupid thing. I was a player on atwar because of the possibility of map editing. I will not buy a premium account just for creating a new map because i never play. But i cannot now create new map because i cannot launch it (lol), I cannot test it. Atwar will lose many players if its money policies continue. I think that admin should look at the reasons of playing atwar. For me, I played a lot of time on the "World Map", but obvisouly after 100 plays on it... this is boring. We want the possibility of playing our own map. We want it now because else I leave. Do I need to delete my map to convince you ?
You will probably gain more players if you put your editing package for free. I let you think about it... Because freedom in a game is the key of its success.

J.S.

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

Kirjutas Nations, 22.04.2016 at 07:36

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

What doesn't exist?

IF map editor: it does exist, use the Silverlight map editor like people have been doing since it came out.

IF hosting games with premium: this exists too.

what am I missing

Sometimes when I read your posts zenith I feel like I want to punch you in the face so bad with crowbar. You have no clue what you're talking about, yet you keep posting in defence of the mods, now adminis for an obvious reasons making your self look like an idiot.
To the topic at stake, it's really disappointing that amok created this situation we have right now. Many guys complaining about the same stuff and he seems not to care enough to get it done. 5% isn't a lot of work to finish within month if you're serious about making your game flourish. Too bad there is only one Ivan and not two, otherwise this map editor would have been released in December of last year or January.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Just gonna say now, lifetime premium when I bought it was around $20, it's harder to get premium when it costs more, and you can't expect the community to be able to buy it no matter the price. Not blaming the admins for raising the prices, but the community shouldn't be shaming players for not having the means.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

LOL, you should keep your comments to yourself as they make you look like a retard.

Kirjutas Abraham, 22.04.2016 at 09:09

Sometimes when I read your posts zenith I feel like I want to punch you in the face so bad with crowbar. You have no clue what you're talking about, yet you keep posting in defence of the mods, now adminis for an obvious reasons making your self look like an idiot.
To the topic at stake, it's really disappointing that amok created this situation we have right now. Many guys complaining about the same stuff and he seems not to care enough to get it done. 5% isn't a lot of work to finish within month if you're serious about making your game flourish. Too bad there is only one Ivan and not two, otherwise this map editor would have been released in December of last year or January.

Please explain where I don't know what I'm talking about or be quiet. You need to fix your attitude towards players or nobody will join your clan. (I have heard that you guys are desperate for cw players)

Kirjutas Tundy, 22.04.2016 at 09:28

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

LOL, you should keep your comments to yourself as they make you look like a retard.

So should you, you call me names but don't bring proof.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:45

Kirjutas Nations, 22.04.2016 at 07:36

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

What doesn't exist?

IF map editor: it does exist, use the Silverlight map editor like people have been doing since it came out.

IF hosting games with premium: this exists too.

what am I missing

>paying 40 dollars to make maps on the abandoned server the outdated and unsupported silverlight code of a indie game that its at the moment lacking players.
>AAA titles are about 20$ after 1 year of being released.

in other words, the silverlight editor is a piece of shit and its overpriced.

Kirjutas Tundy, 22.04.2016 at 09:32

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:45

Kirjutas Nations, 22.04.2016 at 07:36

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

What doesn't exist?

IF map editor: it does exist, use the Silverlight map editor like people have been doing since it came out.

IF hosting games with premium: this exists too.

what am I missing

>paying 40 dollars to make maps on the abandoned server the outdated and unsupported silverlight code of a indie game that its at the moment lacking players.
>AAA titles are about 20$ after 1 year of being released.

in other words, the silverlight editor is a piece of shit and its overpriced.

> Yet all maps made on it still work
> All the amazing mapmaking work so far has been done on the the outdated and unsupported silverlight code

Tunder
>calls me retard
>doesn't know what he is talking about

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 09:29

Kirjutas Tundy, 22.04.2016 at 09:28

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

LOL, you should keep your comments to yourself as they make you look like a retard.

So should you, you call me names but don't bring proof.

its really easy to notice when somebody doesn't know what the hell they are talking about, in this case you attempted to wing it and made a retarded post that has nothing to do with the main post made by the OP.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 09:34

> Yet all maps made on it still work
> All the amazing mapmaking work so far has been done on the the outdated and unsupported silverlight code

Tunder
>calls me retard
>doesn't know what he is talking about

And who do you think makes those maps kiddo? ((Aetius)) ((Pyrrhus)) ((Hellraiser)) ((Nifty)) ((Me))
do you want the experts opinions? you are welcome to ask them what they think about the silverlight editor.

btw, try hosting any custom map made today or yesterday and see if you can play it ((you can't))

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 09:29

Kirjutas Abraham, 22.04.2016 at 09:09

Sometimes when I read your posts zenith I feel like I want to punch you in the face so bad with crowbar. You have no clue what you're talking about, yet you keep posting in defence of the mods, now adminis for an obvious reasons making your self look like an idiot.
To the topic at stake, it's really disappointing that amok created this situation we have right now. Many guys complaining about the same stuff and he seems not to care enough to get it done. 5% isn't a lot of work to finish within month if you're serious about making your game flourish. Too bad there is only one Ivan and not two, otherwise this map editor would have been released in December of last year or January.

Please explain where I don't know what I'm talking about or be quiet. You need to fix your attitude towards players or nobody will join your clan. (I have heard that you guys are desperate for cw players)

I know you don't know what you're talking about, you're zenith after all, and also I'm not going to explain a half-wit like you what you're talking about, you're among the last ones I care what he thinks if to be honest. Speaking of my clan, we aren't desperate for nothing. You might have got invitation by a single player though don't forget your invitation was cancelled couple of times. Having you as a clan member is like having a disposable cup. An ineffectual player without benefit whatsoever that also speak nonsense, and on top of that kiss ass too much is not someone I want to be in my clan.

Ps. Dont smile, some pieces of shit and hair can be seen inbetween your teeth. I would recommend you to brush up your teeth after each ass kissing.

Kirjutas Abraham, 22.04.2016 at 09:48

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 09:29

Kirjutas Abraham, 22.04.2016 at 09:09

Sometimes when I read your posts zenith I feel like I want to punch you in the face so bad with crowbar. You have no clue what you're talking about, yet you keep posting in defence of the mods, now adminis for an obvious reasons making your self look like an idiot.
To the topic at stake, it's really disappointing that amok created this situation we have right now. Many guys complaining about the same stuff and he seems not to care enough to get it done. 5% isn't a lot of work to finish within month if you're serious about making your game flourish. Too bad there is only one Ivan and not two, otherwise this map editor would have been released in December of last year or January.

Please explain where I don't know what I'm talking about or be quiet. You need to fix your attitude towards players or nobody will join your clan. (I have heard that you guys are desperate for cw players)

I know you don't know what you're talking about, you're zenith after all, and also I'm not going to explain a half-wit like you what you're talking about, you're among the last ones I care what he thinks if to be honest. Speaking of my clan, we aren't desperate for nothing. You might have got invitation by a single player though don't forget your invitation was cancelled couple of times. Having you as a clan member is like having a disposable cup. An ineffectual player without benefit whatsoever that also speak nonsense, and on top of that kiss ass too much is not someone I want to be in my clan.

Ps. Dont smile, some pieces of shit and hair can be seen inbetween your teeth. I would recommend you to brush up your teeth after each ass kissing.

I do know what I'm taking about.

Kirjutas ROYAL, 17.04.2016 at 16:45

Mystic is desperate for active cw players, pls join somebody.

Kirjutas Tundy, 22.04.2016 at 09:38

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 09:34

> Yet all maps made on it still work
> All the amazing mapmaking work so far has been done on the the outdated and unsupported silverlight code

Tunder
>calls me retard
>doesn't know what he is talking about

And who do you think makes those maps kiddo? ((Aetius)) ((Pyrrhus)) ((Hellraiser)) ((Nifty)) ((Me))
do you want the experts opinions? you are welcome to ask them what they think about the silverlight editor.

btw, try hosting any custom map made today or yesterday and see if you can play it ((you can't))

Yet they still have what, hundreds and hundreds of plays on their maps?

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:45

Kirjutas Nations, 22.04.2016 at 07:36

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

What doesn't exist?

IF map editor: it does exist, use the Silverlight map editor like people have been doing since it came out.

IF hosting games with premium: this exists too.

what am I missing

Admins keep this quiet but silverlighr map editor is broken for atleast half the map makers, the other half who can still create content have to wait for server updates for there new maps to be on html5 to even test and balance them so Garcia isnt wrong.



Example: when trying to save my maps after working on them in silverlighr, I immediatly disconnect from the server, with no indication why, iv tried everything to fix it, but I shouldn't even have to html5 editor should be out now. While amok continues to ignore us. While amok take are money still for double price for half the content, I'm tired of tip toeing, around so I don't offend are hard working admins. At this point any sensable person would believe amok is just lazy or don't give a shit, I'm sorry ivan and sun all your hard work the last few months will be worthless if amok don't pick up his end. This game will die from this eventually.

Kirjutas Helly, 22.04.2016 at 14:12

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:45

Kirjutas Nations, 22.04.2016 at 07:36

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

What doesn't exist?

IF map editor: it does exist, use the Silverlight map editor like people have been doing since it came out.

IF hosting games with premium: this exists too.

what am I missing

Admins keep this quiet but silverlighr map editor is broken for atleast half the map makers, the other half who can still create content have to wait for server updates for there new maps to be on html5 to even test and balance them so Garcia isnt wrong.

I didn't say he was wrong at all...

I simply asked what I was missing because I can still use it fine. I am creating a map, and while it will turn out to be junk most likely, I'm still working on it.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 14:18

Kirjutas Helly, 22.04.2016 at 14:12

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:45

Kirjutas Nations, 22.04.2016 at 07:36

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Lol paying 40dollars for something that doesnt actually exist IS a LOT of money.Ikd if you rich or something like that though.

What doesn't exist?

IF map editor: it does exist, use the Silverlight map editor like people have been doing since it came out.

IF hosting games with premium: this exists too.

what am I missing

Admins keep this quiet but silverlighr map editor is broken for atleast half the map makers, the other half who can still create content have to wait for server updates for there new maps to be on html5 to even test and balance them so Garcia isnt wrong.

I didn't say he was wrong at all...

I simply asked what I was missing because I can still use it fine. I am creating a map, and while it will turn out to be junk most likely, I'm still working on it.

Then aren't you lucky, I cant do what I payed 25 dollars for (bonker, and me both chipped in on some of the packages back when you could buy packages so I got a discount) and yes that why I bought premium so I could make and play maps, everything else was a perk to me and I can't play or enjoy this game at all for this detail.

BTW I don't agree with the op, he just wants free shit, I fully endorse buying premium once they get off there ass's and finish map editor.

Ok guys, thx for your answers. But the problem is not the price of the premium package ><. I don't care to be premium.

I will explain clearly the situation. I have paid my map editor package. With Silverlight, we were able (map editors) to make a map and we are again able to do it (for me, this work on HTML 5 and silverlight). The problem is not here... The problem is that now, I can create a map, but I am no more able to launch it, to test it and so on.

First, I will not pay 40 dollars to open a map and test it. It is my fault ? no. Amok told me 6 month ago that the issue will be fixed as soon as possible. And after 1 month he told me "it is not the priority". Ok, I accept that. But since I am not able to open any of my games (not the one from others, it's is not in my package contract) I don't play at all on Atwar. Ok, I am may be one guy who is not happy and is boring, but remember that in my time, the best maps was created (not only by me, but by many people) and that now maps are some bullshit, fucking preset or boring scenarii. Realised that we are the only game in the world with a RPG version of World of Warcraft, a RPG version of many MMORPG. Some people come here just to play there favorite games in a different manner.

I think that new maps are very important, not for you, because you are old players, but for new players when they don't like the WORLD MAP anymore. If you don't share my point of view, because my problem seems specific, I invit you to see the "custom map" section of this forum, and If you can, see the launched map in the game, you have ALWAYS the fucking same map. No originality, no news, nothing. A game grows because of new stuffs, right now, there is nothing except an HTML 5 which is in fact not so useful for us.

What I purpose, because may be you can help me. Everybody who agree with me or share my problem, send one PM to Amok just to tell him "Please, make it possible for map editor (without the full premium package) the right to open their own map. Amok, KiSs". Nothing more. This cost nothing for you, this makes many gain for me.

J.S.

I just send the message to Amok :

"Please, make it possible for map editor (without the full premium package) the right to open their own map. Amok, KiSs"

I expect your help . And I spend my fucking protocoin just for this subject promotion !

@this is zenith.

You sound like a typical kid with money, some people here got something called loans. Maybe they got lack of money because of new job. maybe they dont have high paid job and lots of tickets to pay every month. 40 dollar is a big deal for many people.

Kirjutas Zenith, 22.04.2016 at 07:27

First off, you are now able to buy the whole package of premium instead of just, game creation or map making.
It is a good price, especially the lifetime premium which is $40 USD one time. If you chose not to buy full premium, that is your fault.

You apparently just bought the map making package when premium was split into packages. That is your fault as well, you should know that you can't start games with just the map making package.
Buy full premium and quit complaining. Delete your maps at will, I don't play them so I wouldn't care.

Admins cannot just give you things. That's not how life works.

Zenith, stop getting involved with shit you don't understand. You've done this multiple times in a lot of threads.

The guy has a point and the map editor is long over due, period.

I bought lifetime for 20$ on big sale

Kirjutas J.Schumpeter, 22.04.2016 at 01:28

Hello guys,

I open this subject to yell. Indeed, this makes about 6 months that atwar changed a lot. With a new HTML 5 game. Good. Did you see that there are less fun game ? Less new maps? Do you know why ?
I have the map editor package, I can obviously create a new map, this is super fun. What is missing is that no only map editor can open their own game. They cannot Because admin don't want to make it possible for the moment.
I think this is a stupid thing. I was a player on atwar because of the possibility of map editing. I will not buy a premium account just for creating a new map because i never play. But i cannot now create new map because i cannot launch it (lol), I cannot test it. Atwar will lose many players if its money policies continue. I think that admin should look at the reasons of playing atwar. For me, I played a lot of time on the "World Map", but obvisouly after 100 plays on it... this is boring. We want the possibility of playing our own map. We want it now because else I leave. Do I need to delete my map to convince you ?
You will probably gain more players if you put your editing package for free. I let you think about it... Because freedom in a game is the key of its success.

J.S.

Map creators should always be able to host their own maps and scenarios, even without Premium. What you experienced was a bug that no one has reported - I've fixed it now.