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Force Tik tok to bring Back WW2

Yes
53
No
21

Hääletustulemusi kokku: 67
21.07.2015 - 06:57
Bring back Ultimte WW2 and experience a match against world-class Tunder-Unleashed Team Just like old times

DO IT
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21.07.2015 - 07:03
Wow, unleashed comes out of off-topic with a pretty good idea... support !
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21.07.2015 - 07:04
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Support.
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21.07.2015 - 07:20
Come on guys vote YES

It's your chance to beat me the first time ever as Nazi Germany

I'm rusty as fuck didn't play for a year

I hope Tunder will hold my hand
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21.07.2015 - 07:40
4 votes yes 4 votes no. 9 views, means only one player didn't vote.



Me, cr0yente and unleashed voted yes. The rest are infidels.
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21.07.2015 - 08:28
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GUYS JUST VOTE YES,SEE MY NAME,DIDNT PLAY USSR FOR A YEARS
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21.07.2015 - 09:25
Only cucks vote for "no"
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21.07.2015 - 09:32
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Kirjutas Tundy, 21.07.2015 at 09:25

Only cucks vote for "no"

agree
Kirjutas Tundy, 21.07.2015 at 09:26

Aetius ww1 is superior, deal with it
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21.07.2015 - 10:24
 Nero
Yes pls. I need to kill more British Africas as Italy
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21.07.2015 - 11:01
It was a good map, why was it removed? Only reason I didn't play it more was due to time constraints.
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21.07.2015 - 11:25
Tik tok wanted absolute power over his property in game meaning maps stats and intellectual property, you guys did the exact opposite and changed service rules without notification giving him 0 rights, do he took it down and left the game.
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21.07.2015 - 12:15
Kirjutas Helly, 21.07.2015 at 11:25

Tik tok wanted absolute power over his property in game meaning maps stats and intellectual property, you guys did the exact opposite and changed service rules without notification giving him 0 rights, do he took it down and left the game.


Sadly the map being withdrawn only punishes the ones that can have no influence on the above. Admins or Moderators do not suffer from its withdrawal only the players who enjoy the map. Basically Tik is weakening his leverage (ie his skills) as the longer it is withdrawn the less people will understand that the map is superior, once people forget it exists the argument ''our content is keeping players/making money'' will not be true and admins will care even less. Its a bad strategy to get what he wants.

@Tik please Man up swallow your pride and let the people who enjoy your map play it, after all you don't gain anything from the map except the knowledge people respect it and enjoy playing it right?
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21.07.2015 - 12:47
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Kirjutas Helly, 21.07.2015 at 11:25

Tik tok wanted absolute power over his property in game meaning maps stats and intellectual property, you guys did the exact opposite and changed service rules without notification giving him 0 rights, do he took it down and left the game.

Thats why i deleted my ww2 and ww1.
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21.07.2015 - 12:56
Kirjutas b0nker2, 21.07.2015 at 12:15

Sadly the map being withdrawn only punishes the ones that can have no influence on the above. Admins or Moderators do not suffer from its withdrawal only the players who enjoy the map


oh,

Are you implying that mods / admins doesn't get consequence of their actions toward us, the community? That they can dict us rules, and we either follow or leave?

In a short interval of time, there would'be no noticeable difference. Just one player / group of players quit playing.

The biggest harm comes in the long run, when that player's ideas are missing. When that player's map is missing. When that player's skill is being missing. The administration can brag about how AW is getting more and more players, but they had just give out quality for quantity. How? By putting rules and decline negotiation.

1) Aren't you part of the group of "AW was better back in my times" aren't you?

2) Do you also brag about "How the most skiller players in the game were of my time". aren't you?

3) Don't you still keep talking about how "Dalmati was the best clan of all the times"?

Why you think all of this happen? Natural? Is it natural that, in a community that evolves, we in 2 years till haven't got to the level of Dalmati, even though we "supposedly have more players, and the knowledge of the oldest players, including fellow dalmatians" ?

NO BONKER, IS NOT NATURAL. SOMETHING IS DEFINITIVELY HAPPENING HERE.

The intellectual part of the game is leaving. It is unavoidable that someone's leaves the game, sure, but there are just so many way to stop this brain drain.

1) The first one is by recognizing every user as equal, with the same rights as the others. It is just too often that a moderator's opinion wort 100x more than a regular player. Argumentum ad verecundiam !

2) If every user have the same rights, then every user is able to opine in a thread and be taken into consideration, doesn't matter how ridiculous is his opinion. Because after all, we do have mechanics for troll threads, and they are written in the rules.

3) Before taking any decision, admins shouldn't go to mods. They should go to the community. Just look at that blitz Nerf... Same thing was going to happen with RA, if crey didn't had stand up for us.

4) Negotiation is the key to an agreement. When you recognize a part as equal, you don't look to approve your proposal as it is. You rather look for a solution that is acceptable not only for you, but also tolerated or partial agreed by the other party (this, because fully agree between both parties may be too idealist). This mean your initial proposal won't get approved as it is.





As long as the said above is not implemented, this community will keep suffering from brain drain. I wonder if Admins did even tried to talk with the MapMakers about the new ToS. You know what? No. They went to mods, and mods took the decision. At the end of the day,the admins will take their decision based in what mods would like, and not in what the rest of the community would like.
Laadimine...
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21.07.2015 - 13:24
Bring it back!
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21.07.2015 - 13:32
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Kirjutas clovis1122, 21.07.2015 at 12:56



Fully agree,and if admins read this,they will again go to mods ,no to community,like they care.....
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21.07.2015 - 13:59
Best ww2 UK agrees. tik tok swallow your pride like you swallow other things like bonker said and bring ww2 back
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21.07.2015 - 14:08
Kirjutas Khal.eesi, 21.07.2015 at 13:59

Best ww2 UK agrees. tik tok swallow your pride like you swallow other things like bonker said and bring ww2 back

Tik tok swallow his pride? Thats what's wrong with this your a former mod you where part of the issue, he dint need to swallow his pride moderation needs to swallow there's and give him an apology.
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Laadimine...
Laadimine...
21.07.2015 - 14:11
I vote yes and I regret it.

Tik Tok, by the very few fragments posted here I can understand a bit about what happened with you and the map. Fully support.
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21.07.2015 - 14:26
Kirjutas clovis1122, 21.07.2015 at 12:56

Kirjutas b0nker2, 21.07.2015 at 12:15

Sadly the map being withdrawn only punishes the ones that can have no influence on the above. Admins or Moderators do not suffer from its withdrawal only the players who enjoy the map


oh,

Are you implying that mods / admins doesn't get consequence of their actions toward us, the community? That they can dict us rules, and we either follow or leave?

In a short interval of time, there would'be no noticeable difference. Just one player / group of players quit playing.

The biggest harm comes in the long run, when that player's ideas are missing. When that player's map is missing. When that player's skill is being missing. The administration can brag about how AW is getting more and more players, but they had just give out quality for quantity. How? By putting rules and decline negotiation.

1) Aren't you part of the group of "AW was better back in my times" aren't you?

2) Do you also brag about "How the most skiller players in the game were of my time". aren't you?

3) Don't you still keep talking about how "Dalmati was the best clan of all the times"?

Why you think all of this happen? Natural? Is it natural that, in a community that evolves, we in 2 years till haven't got to the level of Dalmati, even though we "supposedly have more players, and the knowledge of the oldest players, including fellow dalmatians" ?

NO BONKER, IS NOT NATURAL. SOMETHING IS DEFINITIVELY HAPPENING HERE.

The intellectual part of the game is leaving. It is unavoidable that someone's leaves the game, sure, but there are just so many way to stop this brain drain.

1) The first one is by recognizing every user as equal, with the same rights as the others. It is just too often that a moderator's opinion wort 100x more than a regular player. Argumentum ad verecundiam !

2) If every user have the same rights, then every user is able to opine in a thread and be taken into consideration, doesn't matter how ridiculous is his opinion. Because after all, we do have mechanics for troll threads, and they are written in the rules.

3) Before taking any decision, admins shouldn't go to mods. They should go to the community. Just look at that blitz Nerf... Same thing was going to happen with RA, if crey didn't had stand up for us.

4) Negotiation is the key to an agreement. When you recognize a part as equal, you don't look to approve your proposal as it is. You rather look for a solution that is acceptable not only for you, but also tolerated or partial agreed by the other party (this, because fully agree between both parties may be too idealist). This mean your initial proposal won't get approved as it is.





As long as the said above is not implemented, this community will keep suffering from brain drain. I wonder if Admins did even tried to talk with the MapMakers about the new ToS. You know what? No. They went to mods, and mods took the decision. At the end of the day,the admins will take their decision based in what mods would like, and not in what the rest of the community would like.


Shut up, moderators don't care which maps are played, and please enlighten me on the 'consequences' of this withdrawal - only ones are the people, they are suffering the consequences not the nasty nasty mods

''The biggest harm comes in the long run, when that player's ideas are missing. When that player's map is missing. When that player's skill is being missing.'' - this is replaceable (proven in that people will play what is available, tik tok is NOT some demi god map maker, end of discussion.

I am supporting the OP, the only people suffering here are the ones who want to play the map - ever seen an admin play?
Laadimine...
Laadimine...
21.07.2015 - 14:28
P.S clovis, trying to make me look a fool just reinforced the fact that you are retarded

Have a nice day
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Laadimine...
21.07.2015 - 14:39
Kirjutas Helly, 21.07.2015 at 11:25

Tik tok wanted absolute power over his property in game meaning maps stats and intellectual property, you guys did the exact opposite and changed service rules without notification giving him 0 rights, do he took it down and left the game.


This is a misconception, tik-tok took down the map to improve it and in the process he did a lot of changes that made the map unbalanced, currently he has no time to balance it again.

The only alternative is for him to allow a map-maker to clone the map and fix it for him.
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Laadimine...
21.07.2015 - 14:47
Kirjutas clovis1122, 21.07.2015 at 12:56

Kirjutas b0nker2, 21.07.2015 at 12:15

Sadly the map being withdrawn only punishes the ones that can have no influence on the above. Admins or Moderators do not suffer from its withdrawal only the players who enjoy the map



1) Aren't you part of the group of "AW was better back in my times" aren't you?

2) Do you also brag about "How the most skiller players in the game were of my time". aren't you?

3) Don't you still keep talking about how "Dalmati was the best clan of all the times"?


Why the personal attack Clovis?

1). Yes the same person who was one of the first to make maps, one of the only people who tries to change with creations away from stock map competitive games, Ya sure clovis nice objective reasoning,
For me PERSONALLY it was better back then, does that mean I should still not enjoy it now or do I put up with jackasses like yourself? I am an old fag in this game yes, believing aspects of it were better YES but you are a fool if you don't think I still enjoy it. Besides WHAT THE FUCK does my opinion have to do with you?

2.) The most skilled players are still from my time. MK still top, all of illy trained by old fags, all of sm syndi cosa trained by the same old fags, so yes they are.

3) Learn the word relative please. Relative to their environment Dalmati are still in my opinion pound for pound the best clan to play. They were the hardest to beat in their own time, nowadays every top clan can beat any other top clan.

Besides, what the hell does any of this have to do with this thread.

Also your views on equality are idiotic.

Tiks response to what the mods do to his choice is now how he responds to the community, THAT is nonsense.

Also stop editing your post
Laadimine...
Laadimine...
21.07.2015 - 14:48
Wow is this unleashed asking the "government" (admins) to bring back a map based on "voting of sheep" ...and my my my word like "force" used in the original post.
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21.07.2015 - 14:58
Kirjutas Helly, 21.07.2015 at 14:08

Kirjutas Khal.eesi, 21.07.2015 at 13:59

Best ww2 UK agrees. tik tok swallow your pride like you swallow other things like bonker said and bring ww2 back

Thats what's wrong with this your a former mod you where part of the issue, he dint need to swallow his pride moderation needs to swallow there's and give him an apology.


Yes as you correctly said i am a former mod and i was part of the issue. My opinion that admin and mod team acted justly on the matter still stands. Brat map makers who wanna blackmail atwar with their maps should go home and play with their toys, nobody cares. As for tik tok. the real reason he is not making ww2 available is that he fucked the map up because he is a stupid noob and he cant fix it, thats why he is in hiding.
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21.07.2015 - 15:05
Kirjutas b0nker2, 21.07.2015 at 14:47





You are beautiful >3
Laadimine...
Laadimine...
21.07.2015 - 15:09
Now really, the fact that the old times were best still stand. And is not your opinion, but the opinion of many others.

Why the game is not best than it was before?





What have the administration made to make it worsen?














Correct. My point, exactly. Think about it for a moment.
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21.07.2015 - 15:44
Kirjutas clovis1122, 21.07.2015 at 15:09

Now really, the fact that the old times were best still stand. And is not your opinion, but the opinion of many others.

Why the game is not best than it was before?





What have the administration made to make it worsen?














Correct. My point, exactly. Think about it for a moment.


The reason really, is because of people like you. The game IS better, some members of the community not so - ie there are more people here now who feel like the game owes them something
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21.07.2015 - 15:54
I havnt played as manstein in a while...... and I only lost because allies failed. Would you like to get my hands dirty again and finally lose because my skills faltered against a better russia, not because my germany failed
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21.07.2015 - 16:39
Kirjutas Unleashed, 21.07.2015 at 06:57

DO IT

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