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Historians fear Sevastopol authorities will damage Unesco world heritage site Chersonesus, an ancient Greek city, to attract orthodox believers The ancient Greek colony of Chersonesus with the St. Vladimir's Cathedral in the background, just outside Sevastopol, the main port city in Crimea An obscure row between supporters of the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian archaeologists reached the Kremlin on Saturday when President Vladimir Putin declared Unesco-listed ruins in Crimea a national heritage site. The governor of Sevastopol last week appointed a priest as the director of a historical area that contains Chersonesus, an ancient Greek city on the Crimean coast. Founded in the sixth century BC on a peninsula to the west of modern Sevastopol, the ancient city has been excavated by archaeologists for nearly 200 years and was made a Unesco world heritage site in 2013. It holds significance for Orthodox believers as the site of the baptism in 988 of Vladimir the Great, the prince credited with converting Kievan Rus, the precursor of modern Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, to Christianity. Sergei Menyailo, the governor of Sevastopol, appointed Father Sergei Khalyuta, the archpriest of the city's diocese, to run the site, saying it should be "a place of pilgrimage, not just tourism." The move drew immediate criticism from park employees, who suspect Father Khalyuta's appointment heralds plans to destroy swathes of ancient remains in order to accommodate ambitions to make it a "second Mt Athos," the mountaintop monastery in Greece that is a popular place of pilgrimage for orthodox believers. Some of Russia's most prominent historians and museum curators have waded into the row, with Mikhail Piotrovsky, the respected director of the Hermitage in St Petersburg, calling Mr Khalyuta's appointment "a provocation fraught with serious social tension." Alexei Chaliy, the Crimean businessman and city council member who last year signed the treaty that formally annexed Sevastopol to Russia, called the move "unfortunate" and said it should be reversed. "Chersonesus is much more than just the church where Vladimir was baptised," said Mr Chaliy, who previously clashed with Sevastopol authorities over plans to lease 267 hectares of environmentally and archaeologically sensitive land to the pro-Kremlin Night Wolves motorcycle club. Mr Putin intervened on Saturday with a decree making the ruins one of "the most valuable cultural heritage sites of the peoples of the Russian federation" and placing the reserve under federal protection. It is not clear what impact the Kremlin's move will have on the dispute, but it may be designed to reassure critics that the archaeological site will be protected from development. Vladimir the Great died a millennium ago this year, and has become a politically sensitive figure amid the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Speaking at a ceremony to mark the 1,000th anniversary of Vladimir's death last month, Mr Putin praised the medieval leader for unifying ancient Rus and "paving the way for the construction of a strong, centralised Russian state." Earlier this year Petro Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president, signed a decree recognising Vladimir as the founder of the "medieval European state of Rus-Ukraine." Both countries trace their origins to Kievan Rus, the confederation of east Slavic tribes Vladimir ruled over. Plans to build a giant bronze statue of Vladimir in Moscow have been widely seen as part of a game of historical one-upmanship with Kiev. The project ran into trouble in June after Muscovites voiced fears that the 330-ton, 79ft monument would cause a landslide at its proposed location on the banks of the Moscow river. Mr Putin is expected to join an archaeological expedition examining sites associated with the ancient silk road in Crimea later this month. It will be his third visit to the peninsular since Russian troops annexed it from Ukraine in March 2014.
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14.09.2015 - 09:30 (deleted) Konto kustutatud
show love croat ♥
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14.09.2015 - 14:38
Funny fact: Islam was appealing to Russia in 10th century for its discipline and spirituality but they refused to accept it as Russian religion because Islam ban alcoholic drinks.
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14.09.2015 - 19:11
Have read about that. Was checking 5 times if it was some satirical site, but no, it is the true, and really funny fact. PS. First time ever I see you talk the truth. So, are you thrilled by that feeling of trying something new in your life, more accepted by publicy than your fake numbers and liefull, troll stories ? Seems like process of evolution is still present at some species like Tito. Keep going buddy, never surrender, you can do it
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14.09.2015 - 19:39
Russia is truly a great country. Protecting what it invaded
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15.09.2015 - 05:31
We are different world. Your is based on lies, propaganda, fake informations and alternative history. My world had propaganda for short period of time during communism, never tried to fake history or use fake informations. (notice how communism is western product, while east products are inventions and technology) While your world maintain propaganda and false informations, my world seek truth. It is kind of 'hunter vs gatherer' analogy. Your world didnt learn to gather, but hunt, while my worls is opposite, we tend to create what we need, not take it from someone else. Maybe thats the reason we can never be united, there will always be a predator and predatory instict.
Crimea was Russian even before America was conceived Not to mention democratic and legal referendum Crimea had and international observes reported it was fair Lets talk about American invasions of Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Serbia, Libya, Syria, Granada, Panama, Cuba. Lets talk about American escalation of tensions in East Europe when Ukraine have civil war and Baltics are afraid. Lets talk about making profit on fear and false informations, selling guns to problematic countries. Let me admit that America is great for ethnically cleansing million Natives (Trail of Tears) and murdering millions of them, stealing their land and raping their children infront of their parents. Really great deed to be added to Human civilization.
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15.09.2015 - 05:31
hey the russians are doing a better job in crimea than eu and america ever did anywhere. they havent caused any mass migrations out of the area or funded any "terrorist" organizations or funded any crazy Israeli death machines and have restrained themselves from inflicting thousands of civilian casualties by enforcing freedom on the place through high powered explosive weaponry from the sky.
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15.09.2015 - 07:25 (deleted) Konto kustutatud
lol,i made a huge posti n other topic,some idiot told same,that russia invaded crimea.
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15.09.2015 - 10:48
America never invaded stronk Serbia, only bombed it
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15.09.2015 - 16:24
Wow, are you autist or mentally disabled? Saying America didnt invade Serbia is like denying American invasion of Iraq or Vietnam. evidence it is invasion by armed forces - air force is military branch 50,000 american and 50 dutch/danish/british troops invading Serbia invasion was from albanian and macedonian side, american air force bombed serbia everywhere invasion starting, american photos defeated by Serbian Army, retreating back to albania, american photo captured weapon from retreating albanian terrorist, weapons are from croatian terrorist passed as 'hiding murder weapon' as it is described by court albanian tanks rolling into Serbia, american photo american propaganda leaflets nuclear ammunition used by americans in Serbia 10,000 albanian casualties, 10,000 Serb casualties, 1500 american, 800,000 refugees, 1,000,000 displaced, 200,000 Serbs ethnically cleansed. American invasion operation was called 'Operation Arrow', later used for Iraq War to avoid shame for failed war in Serbia. American Government ban wikipedia to post about it, but you can google info.
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15.09.2015 - 17:53
That ones my bad, I meant to say that no American ground troops were involved, not that America wasn't involved at all, you're right there. And allow me to give you some advice, just because you can't find a wikipedia article to back up your Russian propaganda, doesn't mean the American government banned it, theres actually a part of the constitution that doesn't allow such a thing to happen, I believe it's called the 1st Amendment
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15.09.2015 - 18:16
Wrong. Firstly I have to correct your number from another comment. - There were 24 000 fallen bombs on Serbia, not 56 000 like you said. Kosovo War Albanian side: - 13 000 Albanians dead ( 7 100 civils) Serbian side: - 2 500 soldiers - 700 civils by NATO bombing: - 400-556 civils (Human Rights Watch - HRW), and also another neutral researches are agreeing in one same thing - maximal number of dead Serbians by bombing can be 1 500. American casualties: minimal, surely not 1 500.
Wrong. Albanian refugees who were able to finally come back after NATO intervention: - 750 000 Total number of Serbian refugees: - 100 000 at maximum. 1 000 000 displaced? Find a doctor. Why I am not shocked about your numbers lol.... you are exaggerating ur numbers like Eagle rolls. Thanks God, the world is still not dumb enough to believe you
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16.09.2015 - 06:02
But they were, and they lost against Serbian peasant hunters lol. Wow american government doesnt ban stuff and it speaks truth? Thats new. So it didnt lied about iraqi government creating nukes, it didnt hide rapes of iraqi children and babies? So we dont need Assange and Snowden giving us information right?
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16.09.2015 - 06:06 (deleted) Konto kustutatud
I like how im starting to feel what people like to argue and make it DDD
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16.09.2015 - 12:54
Nobody ever claimed the Iraqis were creating nukes, the concern was chemical weapons, that they had reason to believe that they were creating chemical weapons, and the same kind of chemicals that were believed to have been manufactured turn up in Syria a few years later, that can't be a coincidence can it? As for Snowden and Assange, Snowden revealing what he did about the NSA should earn him respect, the fact that he sold military secrets to China and Russia should earn him a bullet to the head, and do you really want to talk about Assange, who is wanted for rape?
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16.09.2015 - 13:34
Hahahah tito this is low even for you you say NATO troops invaded serbia (50k of them) and you provide evidence where it says "stationed in albania and macedonia" then you show a photo of albanian type 59 tanks "rolling into serbia" while the photo is from the border (albanian troops never crossed the border,except for volonteers ofc) the photo of US troops retreating from serbia is the biggest joke in here,i dunno where it was taken but definetly not serbia.also notice "hercules" flying over troops, hercules planes were never used in bombing of serbia also "NATO propaganda leaflets" in english XD im pretty sure that they would be in serbian since serbs barely spoke english at the time but nice try kiddo
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16.09.2015 - 13:38
Wow, nice job... that was really hard. pavle op smart
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16.09.2015 - 14:47
I meant WMD (wmd equals nukes in most cases, mea lapsus lingue). America accused Iraq of building WMD, and found none, not even parts or projects for wmd. Also tell me this, America is allowed to have wmd's and other countries are banned? Says who? Who have right to tell someone what to do? Dont forget America sanctioned India for creating wmd. Does that mean world should sanction America for owning weapons of mass destruction? Or should i mention Saudi Arabia buying wmd from Pakistan, why is America keeping silent about it? Is that because Saudi Arabia is ally? So lets just attack and blame North Korea but ignore Saudi Arabia. Hypocricy and double standards. Lets just accuse everyone of being socialist or communist who point out American crime. Like dutch grandad who wants to escape West or German ex-financial minister for his anti-american imperialism speech. --- Snowden never gave military informations to Russia or China, he only revealed truth about American wrondoing in the past 20 years. Give proof that Snowden gave military info to the East. And yes, not obvious at all = Assange create wikileaks which post American crimes in the past 20 years > Assange get accused for rape in a country he never been into. Typical tactic to discredit opponent.
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16.09.2015 - 14:50
Double standards like how you condemn nazi germany for holocaust but ignore soviet great purge, which killed more people?
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16.09.2015 - 14:59
I dont ignore 'purge' i just deny it happened in one year which west call it 'great purge'. Because USSR had law allowing executions and people were executed everyday, not only in the year 1937 as West present it. America need excuse, so they just simplified it for propaganda reasons and created cult 'great purge' to scare people from communism. Communists in USSR are guilty for backstabbing Russia during WW1 and starting civil war, millions died because of them, but Communists never had a plan to ethnically cleanse or genocide people like Nazis did, Nazis had official doctrine for that spamming everywhere. Not even Communist Cambodia didnt had a plan to genocide Cambodians, they just had retarded people joining Communist Party and they killed 1/3 of population. And another Communist country Vietnam invaded them and destroyed those communists and left the country. So Cambodia elected new normal communists to lead. You wont hear that in Western news. Even Capitalism killed millions and backwarded so many countries and created so many artificial states and borders (just look at Africa) but Capitalism never had official doctrine of killing people, ethnically cleansing them or genociding them. But it happened because they had evil people in their ranks which did the crime.
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16.09.2015 - 15:15
Wow, nice loyalty by Albanians living in Kosovo. Clearly Multiculturalism worked for Serbia
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16.09.2015 - 16:20
How it can work when Croatian communist politicians ruled Serbia (and whole yugoslavia) and when America incited war between Serbia and Albania, they armed albanian terrorists KLA/UCK while they are in top five most dangerous terrorist organization on CIA list. Thats like in mexican prison when 2 hold you and 3rd rape you, see thats sex, its working for you right. --- There are 100,000 Romanians, 50,000 Czechs, Slovaks and Rusyns, 250,000 Hungarians, 150,000 gypsies and 150,000 Turks. They are not making problem, so taking Albanians only is not strong argument. Remember that Hungarian Serb Zoltan Dani shot down American 'invisibile' stealth bomber and one F-16. The irony was that stealth bomber pilot was American Slav. wikipedia/demographics_of_serbia
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16.09.2015 - 17:16
Is anyone else getting mind fucked by Croat and Tito having the same avatar now
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16.09.2015 - 17:22
That plane was so invisible... Serbian news couldnt show it so they put an old couch instead.
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16.09.2015 - 18:24
you americans need to know when to shut the fuck up man. Be more intelligent and never use chemical weapons as an argument., trust me im on your side. Its been long proven by now after State department documents got declassified that Usa was in fact providing Iraq with chemical weapons and a loan, for further supplies. Furthermore after the US invasion of Iraq, the duelfer project found that iraqs chemical weapons project had been succesfully dismantled prior to the war.
Snowden didnt sold those secrets. And he only outed that US was spying China, not so bad if you ask me. As for Assange the rape was fake, even someone with half a brain can coclude this..
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16.09.2015 - 18:30
actually nazis just wanted to conquer Slavs and make Jews dissapear, because they were a threat to them. Hitler just wanted the Jews out of his sphere of influence, he was thinking of sending them to Siberia or Madagaskar. Only when he realised he couldnt just make them dissapear, he proceeded to mass killing, which drained him of money, soldiers and resources. Can the same be said about Stalin and Mao? No matter what the answer is, doesnt really matter.
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16.09.2015 - 22:22
It's never time to shut up when arguing with Tito because he's guaranteed to say something even more stupid than anything I could ever think of
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16.09.2015 - 23:54
Correct, the pre-war plan was to back radical Zionists and deport all of Europes Jewish citizens to Israel. Unfortunately the Germans never entered that far into the middle east which made the plan obsolete. Stalin and Mao however tried to create progress in the nation, and while many died because of their somewhat radical tendencies it did pay off.
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Oled sa kindel?