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11.01.2019 - 11:42
Laadimine...
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11.01.2019 - 11:48
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Kirjutas Nations, 11.01.2019 at 11:42




Nerf LB pls
Laadimine...
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11.01.2019 - 12:18
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11.01.2019 - 12:31
 4nic
So 14 imp inf should win vs 7 lb tanks and 2 infs?
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Laadimine...
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11.01.2019 - 12:41
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11.01.2019 - 13:54
Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 12:31

So 14 imp inf should win vs 7 lb tanks and 2 infs?

I didnt imply this i implied that is it still powerfull and people shouldnt cry about nerf.

PS fun fact my opponent went ds and lb ukr.
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11.01.2019 - 15:08
Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 12:31

So 14 imp inf should win vs 7 lb tanks and 2 infs?


idk what happened in the ss but the easy answer to that is yes.
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11.01.2019 - 15:14
 4nic
Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:08

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 12:31

So 14 imp inf should win vs 7 lb tanks and 2 infs?


idk what happened in the ss but the easy answer to that is yes.

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11.01.2019 - 15:26
Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:14

Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:08

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 12:31

So 14 imp inf should win vs 7 lb tanks and 2 infs?


idk what happened in the ss but the easy answer to that is yes.




why'd you repost me that. I like everyone else saw that much.
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11.01.2019 - 15:28
 4nic
Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:26

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:14

Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:08

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 12:31

So 14 imp inf should win vs 7 lb tanks and 2 infs?


idk what happened in the ss but the easy answer to that is yes.




why'd you repost me that. I like everyone else saw that much.

i think this would win more then half of the time
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Laadimine...
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11.01.2019 - 15:38
Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:28

i think this would win more then half of the time


Well that just goes to show how much years of lb abuse has warped your sense of whats ok and whats not D.
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11.01.2019 - 15:41
 4nic
Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:38

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:28

i think this would win more then half of the time


Well that just goes to show how much years of lb abuse has warped your sense of whats ok and whats not D.

this is perfectly okay rolls not even close to the ones people ss'ed in the past
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11.01.2019 - 15:59
Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:41

Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:38

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:28

i think this would win more then half of the time


Well that just goes to show how much years of lb abuse has warped your sense of whats ok and whats not D.

this is perfectly okay rolls not even close to the ones people ss'ed in the past


Like what. Basic numbers here. We're talking 56 att, 98 def and 98 hp vs 63 att, 42 def and 63 hp. Why on earth would you expect lb to win more even assuming that your lb will roll like ironfist and add an extra 14 hp to the 2nd group. There's also numbers advantage. No this is just fucked up.

This is what I've always hated about LB. On average you can pretend all your units have a rough equivalent of +1hp. But because of the nature of crits it can roll far harder than ironfist or be barely indistinguishable from none. It's total cancer.

I hope never to see a strategies criticals boosted ever again. Its not good for the game. We tried it. It was interesting. Now lets never go there again.
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11.01.2019 - 16:16
 4nic
Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:59

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:41

Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:38

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:28

i think this would win more then half of the time


Well that just goes to show how much years of lb abuse has warped your sense of whats ok and whats not D.

this is perfectly okay rolls not even close to the ones people ss'ed in the past


Like what. Basic numbers here. We're talking 56 att, 98 def and 98 hp vs 63 att, 42 def and 63 hp. Why on earth would you expect lb to win more even assuming that your lb will roll like ironfist and add an extra 14 hp to the 2nd group. There's also numbers advantage. No this is just fucked up.

This is what I've always hated about LB. On average you can pretend all your units have a rough equivalent of +1hp. But because of the nature of crits it can roll far harder than ironfist or be barely indistinguishable from none. It's total cancer.

I hope never to see a strategies criticals boosted ever again. Its not good for the game. We tried it. It was interesting. Now lets never go there again.

att and def are just the base values, for you to get the max effect out of LB youd need all those luck upgrades and all gen upgrades, its pretty shit without them tbh. Lb doesent equate to IF at all, we see that in every game when lb goes against IF it gets rekt big time.
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Laadimine...
Laadimine...
11.01.2019 - 16:45
Durr hurr durr according to luke tans theory if you take the base value of attack and multiply it with critical chanche and divide by hitpoints you would have won the battle... durr durr u also have 2 taek into consideration stackbonus hp bonuzdss so uu have to multiply the calculated core value by 1.1 again for each gen stat... so yea what fuxcken noob !!1 (satire for those who doesnt get it)

honestly these lb discussions are obnoxious and lb is way too powerful and has nothing to do with "strategy", constant big critical hits are just annoying, especially when you outnumber the enemy in good numbers.

lets be honest, we have all been scammed by lb at one point or another.
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Laadimine...
Laadimine...
11.01.2019 - 17:13
The first player who figured the power of LB and how to use it deserves all the praises in the world. But just repeating it over and over does'nt really have to do anything with the game but it's now strong enough to finish game in two or three turns.
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Laadimine...
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12.01.2019 - 04:50
 4nic
Kirjutas Franz, 11.01.2019 at 16:45

Durr hurr durr according to luke tans theory if you take the base value of attack and multiply it with critical chanche and divide by hitpoints you would have won the battle... durr durr u also have 2 taek into consideration stackbonus hp bonuzdss so uu have to multiply the calculated core value by 1.1 again for each gen stat... so yea what fuxcken noob !!1 (satire for those who doesnt get it)

honestly these lb discussions are obnoxious and lb is way too powerful and has nothing to do with "strategy", constant big critical hits are just annoying, especially when you outnumber the enemy in good numbers.

lets be honest, we have all been scammed by lb at one point or another.

AAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
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Laadimine...
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13.01.2019 - 04:50
Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:08

idk what happened in the ss but the easy answer to that is yes.

You can see the result, just check the city where the battle happened. It is coloured brown which shows who won it, and it also shows the number of units for which he won.
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Laadimine...
Laadimine...
13.01.2019 - 13:21
IMP objectively has a better chance, but in the grand scheme of things it's only marginal.

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13.01.2019 - 15:45
Kirjutas Guest, 13.01.2019 at 13:21

IMP objectively has a better chance, but in the grand scheme of things it's only marginal.



could you put the same numbers in for GC,IF, and PD to see if those strategies have any chance of winning?
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Laadimine...
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13.01.2019 - 16:58
Kirjutas Guest, 13.01.2019 at 13:21

IMP objectively has a better chance, but in the grand scheme of things it's only marginal.



None militia doesnt have critical.
Laadimine...
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13.01.2019 - 23:46
 Witch-Doctor (Moderaator)
You know if you didnt wf and used that infantry in the attack, you would have won.
Laadimine...
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14.01.2019 - 15:31
Kirjutas Guest, 13.01.2019 at 13:21

IMP objectively has a better chance, but in the grand scheme of things it's only marginal.



Pretty sure air transport still has 1 att even as imp
Laadimine...
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14.01.2019 - 16:43
What when 70 cost lb inf def worse then 30 imper inf?
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Laadimine...
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14.01.2019 - 19:59
Kirjutas Checkmate., 13.01.2019 at 15:45

could you put the same numbers in for GC,IF, and PD to see if those strategies have any chance of winning?


Soon, sure.

Kirjutas Nations, 13.01.2019 at 16:58

None militia doesnt have critical.


No idea if what you said is true or if that change happened after the last time the atWar calculator was patched.

Kirjutas triangle., 14.01.2019 at 15:31

Pretty sure transport still has 1 att even as imp


See above, or blame Clovis.
Laadimine...
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14.01.2019 - 22:17
Tsiteeri:
Tsiteeri:

None militia doesnt have critical.


With gen its +2 crit assuming they have that upgrade
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Laadimine...
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19.01.2019 - 15:26
 4nic
Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:59

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:41

Kirjutas Permamuted, 11.01.2019 at 15:38

Kirjutas 4nic, 11.01.2019 at 15:28

i think this would win more then half of the time


Well that just goes to show how much years of lb abuse has warped your sense of whats ok and whats not D.

this is perfectly okay rolls not even close to the ones people ss'ed in the past


Like what. Basic numbers here. We're talking 56 att, 98 def and 98 hp vs 63 att, 42 def and 63 hp. Why on earth would you expect lb to win more even assuming that your lb will roll like ironfist and add an extra 14 hp to the 2nd group. There's also numbers advantage. No this is just fucked up.

This is what I've always hated about LB. On average you can pretend all your units have a rough equivalent of +1hp. But because of the nature of crits it can roll far harder than ironfist or be barely indistinguishable from none. It's total cancer.

I hope never to see a strategies criticals boosted ever again. Its not good for the game. We tried it. It was interesting. Now lets never go there again.

See the calculation garde made.
42% for the lb stack.
58% for the imp stack.

I was wrong to say these were perfectly normal rolls huh? or you can tell me how my senses were numb from years of "lb abuse"

I knew id be somewhere near the 50/50 just by looking at the first picture by viva
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~Napoleon


Laadimine...
Laadimine...
19.01.2019 - 15:28
 4nic
Kirjutas Witch-Doctor, 13.01.2019 at 23:46

You know if you didnt wf and used that infantry in the attack, you would have won.

He would win over 60% of the time if he had another inf probably
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''Everywhere where i am absent, they commit nothing but follies''
~Napoleon


Laadimine...
Laadimine...
19.01.2019 - 15:31
 4nic
Kirjutas Mauzer Panteri, 14.01.2019 at 16:43

What when 70 cost lb inf def worse then 30 imper inf?

This.

Why should my 7, 130 cost tanks lose to 14, 30 cost infs.
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Laadimine...
Laadimine...
20.01.2019 - 22:47
 4nix
The calculator doesn't show correct results for some calculations. Why would you retards rely on that shit.
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