About Blitz Nerf And Other Strategies
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So, recently some strats were changed, those changes got support from majority of at-war players (17 players 
) and only strat which got nerfed was blitz, blitz was nerfed because it was too op, in both lategame and rush. now let me tell you truth, blitz got nerfed because blitz ukraine was too strong for 1-2 people and it made loose very important cln wars for certain cln, so they proposed strategy changes and they were cunning enough not to open blitz cry thread, but to propose strategy changes, they proposed to buff almost useless strats (gc,hw,lb) and also nerf blitz. first they asked to return it to it's older state (-2 defence) and than (-2 defence) for militia, you made one more strat useless for competetive (and not only) play. i mean really ? blitz could only fuck up opponent's expansion turn 1 and rush him in following 3 turns, or else it would've failed, now blitz can't win in any circumstances blitz ukraine can't even defend against 60-70 imp turkey rush on turn 3, not talking about how much turk pro-s can actrually stack (100-120), the game is called at-war when you see that your current methods don't work you improve them, and make them perfect, but instead you chose easier way and nerf blitz, which was already weak and made it weaker, and now they saw Lucky Bastard (weaker than blitz) as potential blitz successor:
who needs buffed stealth-s if they don't buff units, which are used most (infantry,militia)
Now tell me how weak blitz
can compete op pd
perfect defence Infantry has 7 defence, 2 defence when in city or in defence line that makes it total 9 defence and 1 extra defence against tanks =10 defence, twice as much defence as blitz infantry, which has 5 total defence, and only 50 cost for 10 defence it's averagely paying only 5 on each defence point
pd militia has 5 defence, and 1 more defence when defending in city total 6 defence it's stronger than blitz infantry defence, and almost 4 times as strong as blitz militia defence which has ONLY 2 defence point, and cost for such op militia is only 20 - averagely paying 3,3 on each defence point.
In fact Perfect Defence outperforms blitz in almost every aspect, and still blitz gets nerfed
if you think that blitz is too op (this statement is ridiculous), than improve your gameplay not skip to full noob way and nerf it for your private amusement, I Think that mods should prioritize,Wishes of majority aw players, not wishes of their own, and their friends who use 24/7 pd and are afraid if their opponent doesn't use pd as well
i will tell you 1 single fact about how op pd is, my 98 stack with gen lost to mauzer's 45 stack with gen, mauzer won by 2 air trans 2 militia and gen. (this happened on our tournament game though.)
What we ask is to return blitz to it's former state (only -1 defence for all units) and/or blitz pd inf and mili with -1 defence.
) and only strat which got nerfed was blitz, blitz was nerfed because it was too op, in both lategame and rush. now let me tell you truth, blitz got nerfed because blitz ukraine was too strong for 1-2 people and it made loose very important cln wars for certain cln, so they proposed strategy changes and they were cunning enough not to open blitz cry thread, but to propose strategy changes, they proposed to buff almost useless strats (gc,hw,lb) and also nerf blitz. first they asked to return it to it's older state (-2 defence) and than (-2 defence) for militia, you made one more strat useless for competetive (and not only) play. i mean really ? blitz could only fuck up opponent's expansion turn 1 and rush him in following 3 turns, or else it would've failed, now blitz can't win in any circumstances blitz ukraine can't even defend against 60-70 imp turkey rush on turn 3, not talking about how much turk pro-s can actrually stack (100-120), the game is called at-war when you see that your current methods don't work you improve them, and make them perfect, but instead you chose easier way and nerf blitz, which was already weak and made it weaker, and now they saw Lucky Bastard (weaker than blitz) as potential blitz successor:who needs buffed stealth-s if they don't buff units, which are used most (infantry,militia)
Now tell me how weak blitz
can compete op pd
perfect defence Infantry has 7 defence, 2 defence when in city or in defence line that makes it total 9 defence and 1 extra defence against tanks =10 defence, twice as much defence as blitz infantry, which has 5 total defence, and only 50 cost for 10 defence it's averagely paying only 5 on each defence point
pd militia has 5 defence, and 1 more defence when defending in city total 6 defence it's stronger than blitz infantry defence, and almost 4 times as strong as blitz militia defence which has ONLY 2 defence point, and cost for such op militia is only 20 - averagely paying 3,3 on each defence point.
In fact Perfect Defence outperforms blitz in almost every aspect, and still blitz gets nerfed
if you think that blitz is too op (this statement is ridiculous), than improve your gameplay not skip to full noob way and nerf it for your private amusement, I Think that mods should prioritize,Wishes of majority aw players, not wishes of their own, and their friends who use 24/7 pd and are afraid if their opponent doesn't use pd as well
i will tell you 1 single fact about how op pd is, my 98 stack with gen lost to mauzer's 45 stack with gen, mauzer won by 2 air trans 2 militia and gen. (this happened on our tournament game though.)
What we ask is to return blitz to it's former state (only -1 defence for all units) and/or blitz pd inf and mili with -1 defence.
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funny isn't it, strat most used by rp players got nerfed by eu pro who got fucked in cw because of blitz ukraine, why you ruining blitz experience to rp fags than ?  let them enjoy blitz, and don't nerf blitz because of someone's low skills against blitz 
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I use blitz in RP, but I don't complain about the nerf. And I rarely use blitz in a normal world game or scenario.
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rp players need only range since RP players DON'T USE MILITIAS they have op custom units there...
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I am sorry but, its not like the other nerfs/boosts were supported by 100% of AW lol... they never were.. at these times it was also like 10 people complaining about it and nerfing it, other than that only some useless comments with ''support  '' without even knowing what it is about.... I do understand you guys are mad n stuff, but didn't hear you guys when other strats were boosted/nerfed at the time, because simply you guys didnt play it that much and didnt care about it. So karma is a bitch is all I have to say.
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10 ppl were complaining about nerfing blitz, 3 threads were opened to return blitz in it's former state and all of them have more support, so how exactly was blitz nerf fair ? much more players want blitz back (not counting rank6-7 players)
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Ofc. players want blitz back, dude havent you seen the growing percentage of ''elo'' at the times blitz got boosted? I am not saying its a bad thing, but like laochra said above, its true to say that blitz is the most unskilled strategy to play with. Nobody played blitz before the boost because it was ''noob'' in the eyes of most of the people, and this was because most of them tried it 1 or 2 times because it was like how people think of GC/LB/DS now days. Trying it 1 or 2 times, ofc the first times you aint gotta be expert of the strategy.. but complaining about it that it has lacks and sucks etc. is just lame. Lets get back on the blitz subject, desu a well known blitz player at these times is the perfect example of how reliable blitz used to be without the boost. He was one of those few players who sticked to his strategies and actually tried to make the best of it, and believe me, I have seen ALOT of clanwars/3v3 with him in it and 90% of it was his freaking OP blitz ukraine raping all over the map. The reason blitz got boosted in the first place (my opinion, and mostly what I remember of it) was because it was one of those few strategies who were played the least. Just like how GC did also get a boost. But they didn't think off the consequences of how good blitz already was.. and when they decided to make all units -1, it became more crazy and crazy, and as you can see to your elo and most of the people around you and in the competitive gameplay, they abused the OPness of that boost (which isn't a bad thing, dont get all worked up now) but just unfair towards the other strats.. you can see off the statistics how big blitz growed because it was way to OP... its ukraine was already op before the boost, and the results of that were almost unbeatable ukraines.... as for the players who want it back, its also like 17/20 people who want it back (including you). I counted about all the players who were actually playing blitz ALOT. the others in these threads are just ''hangers'' or your clanbuddies/friends who just supporting you, just like khal who supports laochra on every thread without reading it. Just simply not really meaningfull. ps. Please dont use the upvote amount as ''players who want it back, or as support'' because thats just no... just no.. we both know these things arent even real in games like this. I expect more of you soldier (if you were talking about the upvotes though)
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bro, thanx for giving me time for such big answer, however your argument is only one - I HAVE SEEN BLITZ UKRAINE PWN ASSS and etc and etc, ukraine was always>turkey that means you need to nerf ukraine not turkey, talking about op-ness i already wrote above about pd, and it's op cheap and defensive inf/milis, and you are wrong most of my elo i got from desert storm strategy, i love playing blitz in game of thrones map and custom maps, i also use them in duels but mostly i loose, why are you stealing fun, just because 1 country is op with it, you ca nfucking rush blitz ukraine turn 3, and it will die easily. IT'S beatable, and if you think it's not you can nerf ukraine not blitz, and just because ukraine was always>turk with every strat
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Ukraine is not > turkey, i will gladly disabuse anybody of that notion. It is an excellently balanced battle of quality vs quantity.(ukraine being quality since because of its money, it can play power strats etc).
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^ what laochra said. It was a time that turkey>ukraine, then ukraine>turkey, it is balanced.. i dont get how u guys say nerf ukraine? like lol? only nerf a country so u guys can play ur well spamming strat? ;_; ridicilous.
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so since you say that it's balanced why you nerf blitz than  it still has some kind of advantage
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Hmmm... all these discussions on Turkey v Ukraine inspires me... What do you think about Poland v. Ukraine, 5k$ Europe? Balanced or no?
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blitz narbs now 
ITS NERFED !!! 
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