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Postitatud Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

09.09.2016 - 19:58
==Turn 11: Phase 2 has begun==
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09.09.2016 - 20:16
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)


Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain


Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Nay (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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09.09.2016 - 20:23
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)


Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain


Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Nay (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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09.09.2016 - 20:27
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)


Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain


Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3 unrest)
2) Nay

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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09.09.2016 - 21:05
 Witch-Doctor (Moderaator)
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)


Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain


Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Nay (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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09.09.2016 - 21:25
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)


Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain


Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
2) Aye (all who vote nay, and if nay wins, will lose - 2 popularity )

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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09.09.2016 - 21:29
Nice Aetius is disbanding my Legions because I refused to join Populares.

Consul: 2
Censor: 2
Praetor: 1
Macedonia: 2
Spain: 1
Leving: 2
Disbanding: 2
Force Deployment: 1
Garisson: 1
Land Bill 1: 2
Land Bill 2: 1
Tax Farmer: Abstain
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09.09.2016 - 22:17
Consul: 2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)

Censor: 2)Gogonius Maximus (GC)

Praetor: 1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Third Macedonian War: 2)Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime) [Potestatem]

Spanish Revolt: 1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]

Levying forces: 1)2 Fleets & 3 legions

Disbanding forces: 2)Nay

Force deployments: 1.

Garrison Legions: 1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain

BOTH land bills: 1) Aye

Concession: Zeph
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09.09.2016 - 22:22
Consul Vote
2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)


Censor Vote
2)Gogonius Maximus (GC)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)

"Now, the Senate shall vote on the proposals of the Consuls. Tribunes speak now or forever hold your peace!"

Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
2)Nay

Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
Sponsor: Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) (will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) (will gain +1 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
Sponsor: Julianus Antonius (El Tundero) (will gain +4 popularity if it passes)
Co-Sponsor: Gogonius Maximus (GC) (will gain +2 popularity if it passes)
1) Aye

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Abstain
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09.09.2016 - 23:06
I am going to buy 2 votes to retire the veterans.
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10.09.2016 - 00:25
Consul Vote
2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)


Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
2)Nay

Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
1) Aye

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )
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10.09.2016 - 00:33

‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ "Senators of Rome, factions have arisen, factions within our own boarders. Senators with different agendas and modus. Why do we resort to such barbarian tendencies as to slander one of our own? Even more so, spending money on bringing to ruin your allies, rather the. Aiding Rome? Potestatem will not be like so, and will chose not to meet gossip with gossip, or to retaliate... This does not mean that we don't wish to retaliate, but that we shall restrain from doing so! For Rome!"
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10.09.2016 - 01:50
Consul Vote
2) Cassius Caelius (Safari) & Augustus Damasippus (Resting Lime)


Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
1)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
1) Consul Gogonius Maximus (Google Chrome) [Potestatem]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
2)Nay

Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain

Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3unrest)
1) Aye

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Gaius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )
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10.09.2016 - 07:53
If someone is out of Rome, intrigues shouldn't work on them... Blackmail, assasinations, body gaurds are all annulled, so why are you playing the influence peddling on me?
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10.09.2016 - 07:56
And my loyal legions should do as I say, they aren't subject to a vote, if I want them with me in Spain they should follow, just as they would follow if I was revolting.

Sidenote: Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?
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10.09.2016 - 08:05
Also, as governor can I engage the Spanish rebels with whoever attacks?
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10.09.2016 - 09:18
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Marco Flavius (Aqollo)

Censor Vote
1)Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)

Praetor Vote
2)Quintus Sertorius (Aetius)


Who will command the Third Macedonian War?
1) Galerius Nipius Africanus ( Death1816) [Populares]

Who will command the Spanish Revolt?
2) Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) [Populares]

Leving Forces
2)Nay

Disbanding Forces
1)Legio IV Mortis, Legio V Invicta, Legio VI Ignis to be disbanded (30 talents to pay for their retirement)


Force Deployments
1)Legio II,Legio IX, Legio VII, and 12 Legions and 5 fleets to the 3rd Macedonian War (+zephs legions if not disbanded)
Legio XV, Legio XIV and 3 legions and 2 fleets to Spanish Revolt

Garrison Legions
1) Legio I, Legio III to garrison Nearer Spain


Sertorian Land Bill Tier I (-20 talents, -1 unrest)
1) Aye

Antonine Land Bill Tier III (-10 upkeep, -3 unrest)
As Pontifex Maximus I veto this proposal

Tax Farmer 5 (+3 talents but a land bill must be in effect)
Quintus Sertorius (Aetius) +14 votes, backed by Tiberius Octavius (aurum.)
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10.09.2016 - 09:30
Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56

Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?

This is politics and ally faggery is kind of expected. Besides actual Roman Senate, the Populares were always the majority.
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10.09.2016 - 10:04
Muh legions Q_Q
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10.09.2016 - 10:13
Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 09:30

Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56

Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?

This is politics and ally faggery is kind of expected. Besides actual Roman Senate, the Populares were always the majority.


I'm more concerned about playing a functional game.

Populares is actively trying to recruit the neutrals, if they added zeph and mrarmy they would have more than half the field. In the actual game its possible for the largest faction to win on turn 50 based on most influence and they can easily win any vote and horde powerful positions this way.

If factions can grow to that size its not much incentive for anyone else to continue playing.

That's why the board game has factions of like 4 people played by one person.

If Populares continues this way they will only insure a quick hollow victory.

Message for you Darth: Nice going against your previous faction and joining the enemy.

As for Aqollo and ghost, the fact your leader was assassinated by those you joined is disgustingly treacherous... You're all no better than kebab noobs in 50k world spamming tanks and allying 90% of the others to "win".
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10.09.2016 - 10:20
Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 10:13

Message for you Darth: Nice going against your previous faction and joining the enemy.

Well it was either that, or remain factionless. Also since Virtus Faction collapsed, I owe them no loyalty anymore. Besides, I hardly think we were enemies. More opposition. Neither of us tried to kill the other...

Tsiteeri:

As for Aqollo and ghost, the fact your leader was assassinated by those you joined is disgustingly treacherous... You're all no better than kebab noobs in 50k world spamming tanks and allying 90% of the others to "win".

Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.
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10.09.2016 - 10:25
Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:20

Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.

It wasn't me, I've been wasting all my money on Equites
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10.09.2016 - 10:26
Kirjutas Zephyrusu, 10.09.2016 at 10:25

Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:20

Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.

It wasn't me, I've been wasting all my money on Equites

Never said it was you man
Just saying it could be anybody, and gave the first two names that popped in my head.
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10.09.2016 - 10:27
BTW please make a Sicilian revolt ahaha, I wanna crush them upstart slaves with muh auxiliaries.
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10.09.2016 - 10:54
Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:27

BTW please make a Sicilian revolt ahaha, I wanna crush them upstart slaves with muh auxiliaries.

Wait for Servile War
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10.09.2016 - 11:09
Kirjutas Zephyrusu, 10.09.2016 at 10:54

Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:27

BTW please make a Sicilian revolt ahaha, I wanna crush them upstart slaves with muh auxiliaries.

Wait for Servile War

My term ending next turn that's why.
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10.09.2016 - 11:10
Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:26

Kirjutas Zephyrusu, 10.09.2016 at 10:25

Kirjutas Darth., 10.09.2016 at 10:20

Hey now, for all you know it could be Tunder or Zeph, or anybody. There's no proof that JF was assassinated by Aetius or Pyrrhus or whoever.

It wasn't me, I've been wasting all my money on Equites

Never said it was you man
Just saying it could be anybody, and gave the first two names that popped in my head.


It was populares that did it, they spent 40 talents on assassination cards, I've been keeping track of money. Don't talk nonsense
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10.09.2016 - 11:33
Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56

And my loyal legions should do as I say, they aren't subject to a vote, if I want them with me in Spain they should follow, just as they would follow if I was revolting.

Do you consider yourself above the senate? Legions obey the republic, the highest authority in the state. If you consider yourself above that authority that means you choose to rebel, in which case then they will follow you.

Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:56

Sidenote: Ally faggery should be left in world map ... Factions aren't this big in the board game, so put a limit on how large they can be. What's the point in having a faction if everyone can join it?

In the orig game, depends on how many players there are, if there are 2 there would be 2 factions. Also it doesn't seem to be any limit on how many senators could be in a faction in that game. What is now arising is just the free market of politics taking its natural course. The early republic was a nicer kinder game of 3 parties, neutrals, cooperation and open-ness. I think from now on, the party that has fewer voting power is going to have to resort to bribery or intrigue to make up for their political weakness. Wishing for old times to return is probably delusional now.

That being said, I do see a game-play issue with this. Imagine a faction gains like 90% of the players just revolts and they all join and overthrow the government, seems rather silly. Limiting factions to 5 players may help though.

Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:53

If someone is out of Rome, intrigues shouldn't work on them... Blackmail, assasinations, body gaurds are all annulled, so why are you playing the influence peddling on me?


Imo only assassination makes sense. The other two are just having your equites swayed at dinner parties and blackmail can happen from afar.

Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 07:53

Also, as governor can I engage the Spanish rebels with whoever attacks?

Yes, but only if my army is defeated. The consuls sent legions to you so we could 2 chances to fight in that case. Your job as governor is to rule it, collect taxes, and keep it safe.

btw will update turn, Resting Lime will be assumed to vote along his faction leaders vote
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10.09.2016 - 11:38
Kirjutas Aetius, 10.09.2016 at 11:33


Imo only assassination makes sense. The other two are just having your equites swayed at dinner parties and blackmail can happen from afar.



In that case I'll use my Tribune card.... I veto the dismembering of Zephyrus' Veteran legions. It is a waste of money to have them removed, I see no logical reason to have them dismantled other than to spite him for not joining your faction.
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10.09.2016 - 11:55
Kirjutas Phoenix, 10.09.2016 at 11:38

Kirjutas Aetius, 10.09.2016 at 11:33


Imo only assassination makes sense. The other two are just having your equites swayed at dinner parties and blackmail can happen from afar.



In that case I'll use my Tribune card.... I veto the dismembering of Zephyrus' Veteran legions. It is a waste of money to have them removed, I see no logical reason to have them dismantled other than to spite him for not joining your faction.

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