Turn 1 Wallblocking(some say wf)

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Postitatud Silent One_deleted, 01.03.2014 - 11:47

I recently witnessed a CW between Bums and TC. Madara has a surprise expansion as turk where he likes to cap Belarus.In this CW the result of this was ukraine could not complete his wall first turn due to the presence of the AT near to Kiev. Richtofen promptly left the game resulting in absolte chaos. This has led me to the question, do the rules need revising? and What exactly are the rules concerning wallblocking(wf) on turn 1 ?

In Madara's tournaments the rules specifically state that the opposition player cannot enter the opposing player's territory, so that is explicit for his tournaments. In this CW his expansion would be a clear violation of this rule. However I believe Madara to be an honest player and he stated he would not have attacked. So again another question, do we leave it up to the honour of the various player that indeed if such a violation occurs; we presume accidentally; the game simply continues without the player being attacked? Or it is simply forbidden to enter enemy territory? Strictly forbidding players from enemy territory on turn 1 seems like the clearest way of solving any such issues ,So in this instance Madara would simple have to rework is expansion. I think the competitive players should have their say, after all they are the ones who compete! This was indeed a CW , the pride and joy of atwar.

N.B I believe option 1: depending on players' honour open up a 'can of worms' .What happens on turn two? can he now wall on turn two, or should he now be wallblocked(wf), after all many walls are broken on turn 2 anyway. This become confusing.

Madara Postitused: 998 Kasutajalt: USA	02.03.2014 - 15:06 Madara Kirjutas Goblin, 02.03.2014 at 15:00 Kirjutas Madara, 02.03.2014 at 13:41 Huzzah! Oh god just noticed your 17 ...good talk. Yet I'm one of the few people that can act my age on atWar. Laadimine... Laadimine...
Racoonshot Element Postitused: 274	02.03.2014 - 16:00 Racoonshot Kirjutas Madara, 02.03.2014 at 15:06 Kirjutas Goblin, 02.03.2014 at 15:00 Kirjutas Madara, 02.03.2014 at 13:41 Huzzah! Oh god just noticed your 17 ...good talk. Yet I'm one of the few people that can act my age on atWar. You act more like an old person... If you acted your age you'd be more like Haines... Laadimine... Laadimine...
Silent One_deleted Postitused: 407	02.03.2014 - 17:49 Silent One_deleted Just clarifying a couple things. I am relatively/very new to the competitive aspect of atwar. I witnessed something that created a great deal of chaos. I simply reported what I saw and invited the community to discuss this event and the potential ramifications so that some level of clarity could be reached.It was the better option than trying to go around and pm every high rank/experienced player I see on atwar and ask their opinion. This is in response to the people who find the thread unnecessary and a waste of time.I think the fact that so many actually have something to say and the fact that there are varied opinions show that it was not totally wasted and unnecessary.I hope in the future though that a bit more respect may be shown to the various members of the community when members are expressing opinion(personal attacks and abusive terms really are not necessary). It is my hope that the conclusion of this matter is dont put troops in enemy territory on turn 1, end of discussion. Of course if some 'mistake" really happens I believe that most players would be reasonable about it .Thanks for all the views and a special thanks to the more experienced players who shared their thoughts. I hope that the community grows and matures and we all have even more fun. I invite the mods to lock this topic. All the best ---- "When you connect to the silence within you, that is when you can make sense of the disturbance going on around you." ― Stephen Richards Laadimine... Laadimine...
Richthofen Postitused: 586 Kasutajalt: Saksamaa	02.03.2014 - 20:11 Richthofen I think this should get locked its the same argument on page 1..... its page four people ---- Deutsch überwältigt Laadimine... Laadimine...
Mr_Own_U evoL Postitused: 2710 Kasutajalt: USA	02.03.2014 - 23:44 Mr_Own_U Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the title... " Turn 1 Wallblocking(some say wf) " ---- It's not the end. Laadimine... Laadimine...
Trooper21 Postitused: 668 Kasutajalt: UK	03.03.2014 - 01:13 Trooper21 Kirjutas Silent One_deleted, 02.03.2014 at 17:49 Just clarifying a couple things. I am relatively/very new to the competitive aspect of atwar. I witnessed something that created a great deal of chaos. I simply reported what I saw and invited the community to discuss this event and the potential ramifications so that some level of clarity could be reached.It was the better option than trying to go around and pm every high rank/experienced player I see on atwar and ask their opinion. This is in response to the people who find the thread unnecessary and a waste of time.I think the fact that so many actually have something to say and the fact that there are varied opinions show that it was not totally wasted and unnecessary.I hope in the future though that a bit more respect may be shown to the various members of the community when members are expressing opinion(personal attacks and abusive terms really are not necessary). It is my hope that the conclusion of this matter is dont put troops in enemy territory on turn 1, end of discussion. Of course if some 'mistake" really happens I believe that most players would be reasonable about it .Thanks for all the views and a special thanks to the more experienced players who shared their thoughts. I hope that the community grows and matures and we all have even more fun. I invite the mods to lock this topic. All the best It was a good topic to talk about so don't get discouraged from further topics by a small minority of players in this thread. We got to know what players thought and the vast amount of replies/posts back this up. So don't worry about it being a "waste of time". Laadimine... Laadimine...
Black Shark Konto kustutatud	03.03.2014 - 02:19 Black Shark Konto kustutatud Still arguing? Why doesn't Goblin just teach Madara that expansion and be done with it? Laadimine... Laadimine...
Black Shark Konto kustutatud	03.03.2014 - 04:47 Black Shark Konto kustutatud Kirjutas Goblin, 03.03.2014 at 04:42 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 02:19 Still arguing? Why doesn't Goblin just teach Madara that expansion and be done with it? That expansion is a bit expensive, but the only way to not leave a unit close to kiev. Im sure madara knows how to do it, or could figure it out. I do remeber some time ago that Zog suggested that 15k 3v3s are better, saying it would allow more gameplay. His suggestion could make it so Kiev doesn;t get WFd Laadimine... Laadimine...
bullet86 Postitused: 802 Kasutajalt: UK	03.03.2014 - 05:00 bullet86 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 04:47 Kirjutas Goblin, 03.03.2014 at 04:42 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 02:19 Still arguing? Why doesn't Goblin just teach Madara that expansion and be done with it? That expansion is a bit expensive, but the only way to not leave a unit close to kiev. Im sure madara knows how to do it, or could figure it out. I do remeber some time ago that Zog suggested that 15k 3v3s are better, saying it would allow more gameplay. His suggestion could make it so Kiev doesn;t get WFd No, at 15k you'll have over 5k as germany! That's way too much.. Many places would become too OP... 15k 3v3 shouldn't be played as 3v3 tbh.. 10k requires more skill and thinking. ---- "My words are my bullets."-John Lydon Spart is love Laadimine... Laadimine...
Black Shark Konto kustutatud	03.03.2014 - 07:09 Black Shark Konto kustutatud Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 05:00 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 04:47 Kirjutas Goblin, 03.03.2014 at 04:42 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 02:19 Still arguing? Why doesn't Goblin just teach Madara that expansion and be done with it? That expansion is a bit expensive, but the only way to not leave a unit close to kiev. Im sure madara knows how to do it, or could figure it out. I do remeber some time ago that Zog suggested that 15k 3v3s are better, saying it would allow more gameplay. His suggestion could make it so Kiev doesn;t get WFd No, at 15k you'll have over 5k as germany! That's way too much.. Many places would become too OP... 15k 3v3 shouldn't be played as 3v3 tbh.. 10k requires more skill and thinking. What if someone makes a scenario, where the startings funds could be more than in 10k, but lower than 15k? Laadimine... Laadimine...
bullet86 Postitused: 802 Kasutajalt: UK	03.03.2014 - 08:46 bullet86 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 07:09 Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 05:00 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 04:47 Kirjutas Goblin, 03.03.2014 at 04:42 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 02:19 Still arguing? Why doesn't Goblin just teach Madara that expansion and be done with it? That expansion is a bit expensive, but the only way to not leave a unit close to kiev. Im sure madara knows how to do it, or could figure it out. I do remeber some time ago that Zog suggested that 15k 3v3s are better, saying it would allow more gameplay. His suggestion could make it so Kiev doesn;t get WFd No, at 15k you'll have over 5k as germany! That's way too much.. Many places would become too OP... 15k 3v3 shouldn't be played as 3v3 tbh.. 10k requires more skill and thinking. What if someone makes a scenario, where the startings funds could be more than in 10k, but lower than 15k? 3v3 on Scenarios?Lol'd that would never happen.... Plus, I don't think you can make it different the funds different than the default funds even in Scenarios.. ---- "My words are my bullets."-John Lydon Spart is love Laadimine... Laadimine...
Fockmeeard Stalins Martians Postitused: 718 Kasutajalt: USA	03.03.2014 - 09:41 Fockmeeard Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 08:46 3v3 on Scenarios?Lol'd that would never happen.... Plus, I don't think you can make it different the funds different than the default funds even in Scenarios.. http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=11572 Laadimine... Laadimine...
Black Shark Konto kustutatud	03.03.2014 - 10:08 Black Shark Konto kustutatud Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 08:46 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 07:09 Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 05:00 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 04:47 Kirjutas Goblin, 03.03.2014 at 04:42 Kirjutas Guest, 03.03.2014 at 02:19 Still arguing? Why doesn't Goblin just teach Madara that expansion and be done with it? That expansion is a bit expensive, but the only way to not leave a unit close to kiev. Im sure madara knows how to do it, or could figure it out. I do remeber some time ago that Zog suggested that 15k 3v3s are better, saying it would allow more gameplay. His suggestion could make it so Kiev doesn;t get WFd No, at 15k you'll have over 5k as germany! That's way too much.. Many places would become too OP... 15k 3v3 shouldn't be played as 3v3 tbh.. 10k requires more skill and thinking. What if someone makes a scenario, where the startings funds could be more than in 10k, but lower than 15k? 3v3 on Scenarios?Lol'd that would never happen.... Plus, I don't think you can make it different the funds different than the default funds even in Scenarios.. it's called ''starting funds''. And I think it's a cool idea. Or even better, the admins can allow us to set starting funds for maps from 50k to 3k. So we can have 12k, 11k, 45k and so on. Laadimine... Laadimine...
bullet86 Postitused: 802 Kasutajalt: UK	03.03.2014 - 10:08 bullet86 Kirjutas Fockmeeard, 03.03.2014 at 09:41 Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 08:46 3v3 on Scenarios?Lol'd that would never happen.... Plus, I don't think you can make it different the funds different than the default funds even in Scenarios.. http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=11572 Lol, if you haven't realized, im hosting the Custom Map clan tournament.. I don't mind custom maps, but scenarios, hell no. ---- "My words are my bullets."-John Lydon Spart is love Laadimine... Laadimine...
Black Shark Konto kustutatud	03.03.2014 - 10:09 Black Shark Konto kustutatud Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 10:08 Kirjutas Fockmeeard, 03.03.2014 at 09:41 Kirjutas bullet86, 03.03.2014 at 08:46 3v3 on Scenarios?Lol'd that would never happen.... Plus, I don't think you can make it different the funds different than the default funds even in Scenarios.. http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=11572 Lol, if you haven't realized, im hosting the Custom Map clan tournament.. I don't mind custom maps, but scenarios, hell no. I can understand why, a max of 20 countries can be chosen only. While in maps there could be hundreds. Laadimine... Laadimine...
chill Illyria Postitused: 966 Kasutajalt: Iirimaa	04.03.2014 - 16:45 chill I think wf'ing is perfectly normal and i do it all the time Laadimine... Laadimine...
AlexMeza Konto kustutatud	04.03.2014 - 17:27 AlexMeza Konto kustutatud Kirjutas chill, 04.03.2014 at 16:45 I think wf'ing is perfectly normal and i do it all the time ▲ Troll Laadimine... Laadimine...
Spart Syndicate Postitused: 1711 Kasutajalt: USA	04.03.2014 - 19:35 Spart Locked ---- "In atWar you either die a hero or live long enough to ally fag and gang bang some poor bastards." ~Goblin "In this game, everyone is hated." ~Xenosapien Laadimine... Laadimine...

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