Ban Hammer [NEWSPAPER] Edition #2

Welcome to the second edition of Ban Hammer, AtWar's only newspaper! Today we dive into some controversial ideas and changes that I have picked up from some respected members of the community. Do note this is a serious topic, so if you are Pavle click here.

The article is about the current state of the game and some fixes and/or improvements that should be implemented into the game as soon as possible. Note most of the ideas here are not mine, I have merely expanded upon them.

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As you know may have guess I am a moderator and that means I have access to some really cool features, so let me bombard you with some numbers. All the information below are from 1 particular day(23/1/2016).







The numbers speak for themselves. Help chat is the global for non-premiums. It's possibly the most inefficient way to address a player's problem and is the perfect breeding ground for alternates to spam. I've included players telling others not to spam help chat as spam. 85% of other accounts are ranked between rank 0 and 7.

Now numbers don't lie. Help chat is ridiculously inefficient and causes more problems than it solves. It needs a replacement and that's where the idea comes in.

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Just kidding we ain't fixing it, we removing it but we are leaving something behind. Help channel is mainly meant for low ranks who just got into the game. Right now when a players creates a account this is what they see:



Clicking "Help?" takes them to help chat. However after the changes are implemented here's what they see:





This time clicking "Help?" will bring up a menu where they can type their question. Much like the report function the question will be sent to supporters and moderators who will then assist them. The "Help?" feature would only last till rank 3 and then disappears. The "?" button remains forever and once clicked brings the player to the Questions forum.

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Next week we continue with serious articles. We will soon tackle the idea of premium only Generals.
Stay tuned!

This is a really well thought out idea to I problem I didn't even think needed addressing.. But really does. Who came up with this?

Pavle will fall in the trap.

Perfect solution and nice stats

Will greatly limit the amount of players that can answer questions, but since I can't come up with any better idea I support this.

Niceeeee

I agree this would mostly fix the problem.
but that can make new problem what if at the time there is no supporters and moderators online?

Kirjutas Mr Tyler, 25.01.2016 at 08:33

I agree this would mostly fix the problem.
but that can make new problem what if at the time there is no supporters and moderators online?

Much like the report function your question would get logged to be answered later. You could also click the "?" button and leave a message on the forum.

Ok one sec guys. I'm still not to good at the game and sometimes I want to ask questions directly related to gameplay. I may not want to wait the time it takes to get a response on the forums, which is why I use help chat. How will setting a rank 3 limit help those who are higher ranked than that ask questions?

Also, my next question is, who is to say that people will not make alts and spam that chat? It solves the problem of using help chat as global but not the fact that they could spam supporters and mods chat boxes.

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

There more talking about the chat spam in help they cant ban the spammer because he was on a guest account and and switched ips this just a way to fix help chat spam

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

I totally agree and also if i may add, you would be a great mod and if u ever become mod you can finally teach mods who have been modding for 4 years how to do their job.
Also youre right.when you said a mod can always step down, same as a player is free to piss of whenever hes tired of the game. (Best ivan quote )

Kirjutas Mr Tyler, 25.01.2016 at 09:53

Kirjutas Zenith, 25.01.2016 at 08:47

Ok one sec guys. I'm still not to good at the game and sometimes I want to ask questions directly related to gameplay. I may not want to wait the time it takes to get a response on the forums, which is why I use help chat. How will setting a rank 3 limit help those who are higher ranked than that ask questions?

Also, my next question is, who is to say that people will not make alts and spam that chat? It solves the problem of using help chat as global but not the fact that they could spam supporters and mods chat boxes.

im online most of the time to help people you can add me in Atwar and pr me when ever you want help or need to ask something ;);)

Ur only rank 3 dude. No offence, but sometimes I would like advice from the pros.

Kirjutas Meester, 25.01.2016 at 01:46

Thanks for doing this though, it shows that my original analysis wasn't unfounded

Zzz no support. Anyone new to the game will want answers fast at the time of playing. If he is going to be made to wait for the answer its a waste of time. Help channel does serve the purpose of having questions answered fast inspite of the spam. You are purely thinking from your angle you need to think from new users angle. When I try new games and if I don't get the help I want I leave never to come back.

You could surely have tried other ways to solve the problem such as limit of 10 chats per user for 1 hour.

This will be a more inconvenience to new users than solve any of the problems.

I believe there always exist blanks that will never be filled with this help chat spam problem.This idea is the best that can solve this small but so important problem!
I support it all the way,good job meester and mod/admin team for this idea.

PS:Give it a try,what do you got to lose?

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Tried, the mod was demoted because of players like you that wanted harder/active mods. You got that, and than you complained, so why are you always being a hypocrite. Also weren't you suppose to leave this game?

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:00

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Tried, the mod was demoted because of players like you that wanted harder/active mods. You got that, and than you complained, so why are you always being a hypocrite. Also weren't you suppose to leave this game?

Well said. I love it.

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:00

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Tried, the mod was demoted because of players like you that wanted harder/active mods. You got that, and than you complained, so why are you always being a hypocrite. Also weren't you suppose to leave this game?

Are you serious with what you are writing? E Mare was anything but fair and mature mod, he was the definition of a incompetent mod with powers that looked for any reason to play with his powers even when it wasn't required. And for that he was removed. For a fair and mature mods look at Guest and Columna Durruti, Desu, Hugosch and few more that are inactive and compare.
And since the reason I originally deleted my account was because of e Mare and he is no longer a mod, I think it's unnecessary anymore. I'll stick around until I decide otherwise.

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:38

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:00

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Tried, the mod was demoted because of players like you that wanted harder/active mods. You got that, and than you complained, so why are you always being a hypocrite. Also weren't you suppose to leave this game?

And since the reason I originally deleted my account was because of e Mare and he is no longer a mod, I think it's unnecessary anymore. I'll stick until I decide to otherwise.

Why do you lie? You deleted your account, sometime last year and came back within a month. e Mare only got demoted a few weeks ago. Last time I checked your annoying @ss (sorry about my french) has been around for much longer than that.

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:43

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:38

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:00

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Tried, the mod was demoted because of players like you that wanted harder/active mods. You got that, and than you complained, so why are you always being a hypocrite. Also weren't you suppose to leave this game?

And since the reason I originally deleted my account was because of e Mare and he is no longer a mod, I think it's unnecessary anymore. I'll stick until I decide to otherwise.

Why do you lie? You deleted your account, sometime last year and came back within a month. e Mare only got demoted a few weeks ago. Last time I checked your annoying @ss (sorry about my french) has been around for much longer than that.

What are you taking about? If you're going be a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an ass.

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:48

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:43

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:38

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:00

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 09:43

Maybe instead of searching for alternatives like this idea, we need active mod crew more than just 3~5. And mods who do what they are supposed to do even if they don't don't enjoy doing it anymore? Or they can always step down. Otherwise I don't see what kind of usefulness these "volunteers" bring other than having too much power and influence on it when they are barely active.

As for this idea most high and mid ranks have questions regarding the game, and they don't use the forum I also doubt that they will. It isn't going to help the community but the lazy and incompetent mods to have less "duties".

Tried, the mod was demoted because of players like you that wanted harder/active mods. You got that, and than you complained, so why are you always being a hypocrite. Also weren't you suppose to leave this game?

And since the reason I originally deleted my account was because of e Mare and he is no longer a mod, I think it's unnecessary anymore. I'll stick until I decide to otherwise.

Why do you lie? You deleted your account, sometime last year and came back within a month. e Mare only got demoted a few weeks ago. Last time I checked your annoying @ss (sorry about my french) has been around for much longer than that.

What are you taking about? If you're going be a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an ass.

Not worth the time buddy. You're insults are getting weaker, refer back to the image. Maybe you need a larger one to read it clearly?

- Hope that helps, I love helping people in need.

Kirjutas Abraham, 05.11.2015 at 22:31

I have noticed in the couple of weeks since I've returned, that e Mare done beyond any other mod. I value his contribution to this game development. Even though there was an incident, and I had my personal opinion, it's just my opinion. He seems to be fair, and honest with everyone, and helpful when players are having problems. Like Zatara mentioned, e Mare contributed a lot with HTML5, and still do. More than the entire mods combained, so if you aren't happy with e Mare you have a choice to stay, or leave.

op, hdrakon always changes side whenever he feel like just to be mod.

Kirjutas minusSeven, 25.01.2016 at 12:42

Anyone new to the game will want answers fast at the time of playing. If he is going to be made to wait for the answer its a waste of time. Help channel does serve the purpose of having questions answered fast inspite of the spam.

You could surely have tried other ways to solve the problem such as limit of 10 chats per user for 1 hour.

That was exactly my issue with this solution, not all the times there will be a mod or supporter (why supporter??) available for this.

Also no, help doesn't always solves it's propose. The spam does avoid answering and discourage new questions. It must be prevented somehow. I though putting a strong flood control (30 seconds per message?) would change it but no filter can prevent a spammer that proposes himself to troll the chat. Hiding it from the players seems the best alternative so far.

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 15:43

Why do you lie? You deleted your account, sometime last year and came back within a month. e Mare only got demoted a few weeks ago. Last time I checked your annoying @ss (sorry about my french) has been around for much longer than that.

Assuming you are referring to the username I had that included deleted in my former names. I had username glitch on my account that allowed me and few more players to change our username as much as we want without regulations, and when I tested how to get rid of it deleting my account as a test was one of the methods I tried. It sovled it for me and it was in 2013 not last year, mr smart pants.

Kirjutas clovis1122, 25.01.2016 at 15:53

Kirjutas Abraham, 05.11.2015 at 22:31

I have noticed in the couple of weeks since I've returned, that e Mare done beyond any other mod. I value his contribution to this game development. Even though there was an incident, and I had my personal opinion, it's just my opinion. He seems to be fair, and honest with everyone, and helpful when players are having problems. Like Zatara mentioned, e Mare contributed a lot with HTML5, and still do. More than the entire mods combained, so if you aren't happy with e Mare you have a choice to stay, or leave.

op, hdrakon always changes side whenever he feel like just to be mod.

Pointing facts with objective opinion doesn't mean I was trying to get a position especially when all active mods are against that person. He was indeed fair when it came to help people with their issues, and was a huge contributer to the fast development of HTML version. However he was not a good choice, and there are many reasons why that overshadow the good things that he did. It isn't a secret he was part of if not the most active mod at that time.

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:59

Assuming you are referring to the username I had that included deleted in my former names. I had username glitch on my account that allowed me and few more players to change our username as much as we want without regulations, and when I tested how to get rid of it deleting my account as a test was one of the methods I tried. It sovled it for me and it was in 2013 not last year, mr smart pants.

I'm questioning your ability to read and comprehend at this point. You deleted your account in 2015 (I don't care about the 2013 time). MANY players will agree to that, so WHY do you KEEP LYING?

"so if you aren't happy with e Mare you have a choice to stay, or leave" You said you left, but yet you were there to state that?

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 16:08

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:59

Assuming you are referring to the username I had that included deleted in my former names. I had username glitch on my account that allowed me and few more players to change our username as much as we want without regulations, and when I tested how to get rid of it deleting my account as a test was one of the methods I tried. It sovled it for me and it was in 2013 not last year, mr smart pants.

I'm questioning your ability to read and comprehend at this point. You deleted your account in 2015 (I don't care about the 2013 time). MANY players will agree to that, so WHY do you KEEP LYING?

"so if you aren't happy with e Mare you have a choice to stay, or leave" You said you left, but yet you were there to state that?

Yes, I wrote it so the admins will understand that he is causing players to leave. And I returned shortly after he misused his powes to restore, then enter mine account and even change password and there was a chance he will be demoted which happened eventually. Anyway it isn't the place to trash talk me feel free to make a forum talking bad about me instead of further derailing this thread.

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 16:16

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 16:08

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:59

Assuming you are referring to the username I had that included deleted in my former names. I had username glitch on my account that allowed me and few more players to change our username as much as we want without regulations, and when I tested how to get rid of it deleting my account as a test was one of the methods I tried. It sovled it for me and it was in 2013 not last year, mr smart pants.

I'm questioning your ability to read and comprehend at this point. You deleted your account in 2015 (I don't care about the 2013 time). MANY players will agree to that, so WHY do you KEEP LYING?

"so if you aren't happy with e Mare you have a choice to stay, or leave" You said you left, but yet you were there to state that?

Yes, I wrote it so the admins will understand that he is causing players to leave. And I returned shortly after he misused his powes to enter mine account and there was a chance he will be demoted which happened. Anyway it isn't the place to trash talk me feel free to make a forum talking bad about instead of further derailing this thread.

Just the words I wanted to see come out of your mouth, you admitted to lying about deleting your account in 2015. Also I love your maturity, we need to make you moderator ASAP.

I'm done here now, I have proven my point that you lie. I do not wish to make a thread for you, you're not worth that much of my attention so I will decline your offer. Take care.

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 16:23

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 16:16

Kirjutas Darkmace, 25.01.2016 at 16:08

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:59

Assuming you are referring to the username I had that included deleted in my former names. I had username glitch on my account that allowed me and few more players to change our username as much as we want without regulations, and when I tested how to get rid of it deleting my account as a test was one of the methods I tried. It sovled it for me and it was in 2013 not last year, mr smart pants.

I'm questioning your ability to read and comprehend at this point. You deleted your account in 2015 (I don't care about the 2013 time). MANY players will agree to that, so WHY do you KEEP LYING?

"so if you aren't happy with e Mare you have a choice to stay, or leave" You said you left, but yet you were there to state that?

Yes, I wrote it so the admins will understand that he is causing players to leave. And I returned shortly after he misused his powes to enter mine account and there was a chance he will be demoted which happened. Anyway it isn't the place to trash talk me feel free to make a forum talking bad about instead of further derailing this thread.

Just the words I wanted to see come out of your mouth, you admitted to lying about deleting your account in 2015. Also I love your maturity, we need to make you moderator ASAP.

I'm done here now, I have proven my point that you lie. I do not wish to make a thread for you, you're not worth that much of my attention so I will decline your offer. Take care.

Surely I don't worth your time or attention for a thread while in this thread alone you crapped out 5 posts about me.

Kirjutas Abraham, 25.01.2016 at 15:38

And since the reason I originally deleted my account was because of e Mare and he is no longer a mod, I think it's unnecessary anymore. I'll stick around until I decide otherwise.

then why was your account super active when emare was a mod? cuz i saw you kept bitching in forums about emare and admins. stop trying to be such a liar and manipulator dude, it gives you more minus to your shitty reputation