The Future of Custom Maps

Guys, i will be quitting map making for the time being as I don't see the point of wasting my time making sophisticated and balanced maps, the current community just doesn't have the desire to try them out unless it involves easy SP. As the result, I am suspending all of my projects and hiding them for a undetermined amount of time. Usually its a sign of good faith to allow another map maker to take over as a collaborator, but this can't be the case with my maps since all of the cartographers that i know are inactive Including Pyrruhs and Aetius. Another option to keep my current maps alive would be to allow cloning, but this is out of the question since people just don't have neither the time or skill to maintain my maps and I don't want anyone to steal my credit (I don't want to be another illuminatum).

The dead of map making could be attributed but is not limited to the following reasons:
1) dependency on cartographer clans
2) monopolization and stagnation of the map catalog
3) bastardization of the custom map ideal, custom map's market being overrun by people who only care about SP and easy wins (RP)
4) Noobification of the player-base, unable to learn basic Afterwind mechanics such as strategies, micro, macro, turn-blocking and proper economy management.
5) Unreliable Map-making engine (Sorry amok)
6) Mistrust and lack of understanding between the staff/mods and the map making community.

Now, many of you guys already knew that I and a few other map makers were on the verge of being inactive, but I feel like its common courtesy to let you guys know that as of know there is not a single one left. Now, this doesn't mean that you won't see us once in a while in lobby or roaming the forum, it just means that for the time being we aren't making any more maps and this is unlikely to change any time soon.

Thanks for playing my maps while the scenario genre lasted, hopefully new map makers arise form this vacuum and revive map making and scenarios again, but that is unlikely if nothing is done to fix the problems listed above.

Sincerely, Tunder.

When will non-premium people get put maps on?

I highly agree with this ,map maker here like seriously people

I have a europe map soon want to put on here but im not premium so yeah should you say that or not and
destroy my map making days!

Kirjutas Gunoba, 16.05.2016 at 00:43

I have a europe map soon want to put on here but im not premium so yeah should you say that or not and
destroy my map making days!

Please

Gunoba is the embodiment of what tunder is talking about, he can't even have a serious send off post without these perasites defiling it. This game has so much potential wasted by complacent administration who seems fine with the current state of the game, as if they are so disconnected from there player base they can't see the issues, or they are to lazy to fix it, because they are making sufficient revenue in there own eyes to justify the ammount of work currently done.

I agree.

Gutted to hear bro. II agree with you bro. I think you deserve more than this.

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 00:30

I quit - GG

Actually I am about to make a return after retiring from map making ^_^

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 00:30

5) Unreliable Map-making engine (Sorry amok)

why you sorry to him,you gave money to have mapmaker,you should be able to use it.

Kirjutas Oleg, 16.05.2016 at 05:08

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 00:30

5) Unreliable Map-making engine (Sorry amok)

why you sorry to him,YOU GAVE HIM MONEY FOR THAT IDIOT!!!

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=25940

Kirjutas clovis1122, 16.05.2016 at 06:05

Kirjutas Oleg, 16.05.2016 at 05:08

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 00:30

5) Unreliable Map-making engine (Sorry amok)

why you sorry to him,YOU GAVE HIM MONEY FOR THAT IDIOT!!!

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=25940

and?i've just told him he has rights to ask for something he gave money for,im on side of mapmakers as always.

Atwar maps are dead, First aetius and then Pyrrhus now tunder, If custom maps get fixed il take over their place but until then I have discontinued further modification to Viking conquests and operation husky.

Kirjutas MoS, 16.05.2016 at 11:26

Atwar maps are dead, First aetius and then Pyrrhus now tunder, If custom maps get fixed il take over their place but until then I have discontinued further modification to Viking conquests and operation husky.

Agreed.

Well,sad to hear this.

I don't have the time to split beetween work, some courses i'm taking and making maps here. So as long as i can, i'll continue make maps ocationally. (I paid for it, anyways). Hope Amok and Ivan release the new map editor soon.

Kirjutas Gunoba, 16.05.2016 at 00:36

When will non-premium people get put maps on?

Never.

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 00:30

Guys, i will be quitting map making for the time being as I don't see the point of wasting my time making sophisticated and balanced maps, the current community just doesn't have the desire to try them out unless it involves easy SP. As the result, I am suspending all of my projects and hiding them for a undetermined amount of time. Usually its a sign of good faith to allow another map maker to take over as a collaborator, but this can't be the case with my maps since all of the cartographers that i know are inactive Including Pyrruhs and Aetius. Another option to keep my current maps alive would be to allow cloning, but this is out of the question since people just don't have neither the time or skill to maintain my maps and I don't want anyone to steal my credit (I don't want to be another illuminatum).

The dead of map making could be attributed but is not limited to the following reasons:
1) dependency on cartographer clans
2) monopolization and stagnation of the map catalog
3) bastardization of the custom map ideal, custom map's market being overrun by people who only care about SP and easy wins (RP)
4) Noobification of the player-base, unable to learn basic Afterwind mechanics such as strategies, micro, macro, turn-blocking and proper economy management.
5) Unreliable Map-making engine (Sorry amok)
6) Mistrust and lack of understanding between the staff/mods and the map making community.

Now, many of you guys already knew that I and a few other map makers were on the verge of being inactive, but I feel like its common courtesy to let you guys know that as of know there is not a single one left. Now, this doesn't mean that you won't see us once in a while in lobby or roaming the forum, it just means that for the time being we aren't making any more maps and this is unlikely to change any time soon.

Thanks for playing my maps while the scenario genre lasted, hopefully new map makers arise form this vacuum and revive map making and scenarios again, but that is unlikely if nothing is done to fix the problems listed above.

Sincerely, Tunder.

its poor decision, if u arent satisfied with community relationships or who plays yours map, if u re concerned about popularity of yours map who cares ppl who value it will play and appreciate yours work, who dont appreciate wont play, only good reason would be life problems, or like i hate u, that u dont have time cause life obligations, and custom maps makers everyone have different taste, so if u like one type of maps, u cant expect that all pppl like yours type, u maste have wider view on community

I agree 100%. The map making aspect of AW is dying, if not dead. Ivan & Amok need to get their asses moving, with this HTML 5 Map maker. For Christ sakes, it was supposed to be released in February.

Kirjutas MURAD IV, 16.05.2016 at 13:33

its poor decision, if u arent satisfied with community relationships or who plays yours map, if u re concerned about popularity of yours map who cares ppl who value it will play and appreciate yours work, who dont appreciate wont play, only good reason would be life problems, or like i hate u, that u dont have time cause life obligations, and custom maps makers everyone have different taste, so if u like one type of maps, u cant expect that all pppl like yours type, u maste have wider view on community

you are in no position to judge my decision to quit map making.

I been making custom maps for nearly 4 years since the map making tool was in alpha, before UN,Ancient World, GoT, Ultimate WW2, The War to end all wars, RP, Html5, Before Utahrapter3,paolo,Ezzatam,Tito,Pulse,Avatar,Primal,Bellerhoupon,Tik-tok,Jaredb, Cronus, Magic, Aetius,Pyrrhus,Illuminatum,Hellraiser,Adog,Fappino,Martell,Nifty. I've seen everything from start to end and i watched map making and scenarios develop as time went on. Magic and I made the first cartographer clan, Jaredb and I made the 2nd, I helped Aetius and Pyrruhs after they made the 3rd, it has always been the same people but now they are gone. I think its fair to say that i know when enough is enough.

You are free to take the burden and make maps yourself for the community, i know i will not.

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 15:44

Kirjutas MURAD IV, 16.05.2016 at 13:33

its poor decision, if u arent satisfied with community relationships or who plays yours map, if u re concerned about popularity of yours map who cares ppl who value it will play and appreciate yours work, who dont appreciate wont play, only good reason would be life problems, or like i hate u, that u dont have time cause life obligations, and custom maps makers everyone have different taste, so if u like one type of maps, u cant expect that all pppl like yours type, u maste have wider view on community

you are in no position to judge my decision to quit map making.

I been making custom maps for nearly 4 years since the map making tool was in alpha, before UN,Ancient World, GoT, Ultimate WW2, The War to end all wars, RP, Html5, Before Utahrapter3,paolo,Ezzatam,Tito,Pulse,Avatar,Primal,Bellerhoupon,Tik-tok,Jaredb, Cronus, Magic, Aetius,Pyrrhus,Illuminatum,Hellraiser,Adog,Fappino,Martell,Nifty. I've seen everything from start to end and i watched map making and scenarios develop as time went on. Magic and I made the first cartographer clan, Jaredb and I made the 2nd, I helped Aetius and Pyrruhs after they made the 3rd, it has always been the same people but now they are gone. I think its fair to say that i know when enough is enough.

You are free to take the burden and make maps yourself for the community, i know i will not.

I dont judge but i think is pitty for all, and i should reconsider that decision

I'll be here to make maps, and I'm not the only one from my side that is going to do it. The problem with people is that they relied too much on some of the names you mentioned, and without them, they lose their course (Hi WW1fags). Don't you worry, you will not go down this path, but I'm sure as hell that I will.


Cheers,
Al Fappino

Kirjutas Oleg, 16.05.2016 at 04:18

I agree.

Now I know why you sent that message lol

Yeah I am not going to participate in atwar anymore until map maker is made. I waited for a long time, bye.

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 15:44

I been making custom maps for nearly 4 years...

I remember this one:

Kirjutas Columna Durruti, 17.05.2016 at 00:51

Kirjutas Tundy, 16.05.2016 at 15:44

I been making custom maps for nearly 4 years...

I remember this one:

that baby had the first custom units with a rock-paper-scissors formula. back then it was easy to impress players, having a land unit that could transport units was seen as something innovating. I had yet to master the art of the scale.

Kirjutas Tundy, 17.05.2016 at 00:58

that baby had the first custom units with a rock-paper-scissors formula. back then it was easy to impress players, having a land unit that could transport units was seen as something innovating. I had yet to master the art of the scale.

Was this your first map?

Kirjutas Columna Durruti, 17.05.2016 at 00:59

Kirjutas Tundy, 17.05.2016 at 00:58

that baby had the first custom units with a rock-paper-scissors formula. back then it was easy to impress players, having a land unit that could transport units was seen as something innovating. I had yet to master the art of the scale.

Was this your first map?

yes, rank 9 tunder didn't knew that ctrl could make a difference.

Kirjutas Tundy, 17.05.2016 at 01:01

Kirjutas Columna Durruti, 17.05.2016 at 00:59

Kirjutas Tundy, 17.05.2016 at 00:58

that baby had the first custom units with a rock-paper-scissors formula. back then it was easy to impress players, having a land unit that could transport units was seen as something innovating. I had yet to master the art of the scale.

Was this your first map?

yes, rank 9 tunder didn't knew that ctrl could make a difference.

Only CTRL gives control.

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Kirjutas Columna Durruti, 17.05.2016 at 01:06

Kirjutas Tundy, 17.05.2016 at 01:01

Kirjutas Columna Durruti, 17.05.2016 at 00:59

Kirjutas Tundy, 17.05.2016 at 00:58

that baby had the first custom units with a rock-paper-scissors formula. back then it was easy to impress players, having a land unit that could transport units was seen as something innovating. I had yet to master the art of the scale.

Was this your first map?

yes, rank 9 tunder didn't knew that ctrl could make a difference.

Only CTRL gives control.

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Can u publish that map? it looks like that was fun.