Brexit

I think they will leave , and its best if they leave imo , and no im sure ivan and amok wont be deported or any other immigrant for that case

As long as the liberals keep importing the filth they will keep winning in elections, sad but true, this might be the last chance for UK to turn it arround before its too late.

Idk if you guys actually think that's good in any way at all.... at least, for UK itself.

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 01:01

I'm pretty sure they will be if they are EU residents working in the UK: according to UKIP at least.

At least they get to work full-time on AtWar!

They should stay in the EU, but this referendum must serve as a lesson to the EU that Europe needs to change, and we need to completely re-think the European Project, its approach and most of all, the autonomy (or non-autonomy) EU gives. UK should stay, but under a restructured EU.

Kirjutas RaulPB, 22.06.2016 at 09:35

Idk if you guys actually think that's good in any way at all.... at least, for UK itself.

>John Oliver

The EU cannot survive because it has to change like fappy said , either it is strong and enforces its laws on all countries like 1 big country or
it will collapse like yugoslavia did , in its current form it cannot survive even if UK stays it will still collapse in 10 or 20 years max

Step 1- Leave European Union (this SHOULD be the easy part)
Step 2- Reject failed multiculturalism and embrace strong traditional British values
Step 3- Deport libcucks and blacklist John Oliver as traitor to the nation and Queen
Step 4- Engage in national effort to solve pressing British issues concerning jobs, education, health, infrastructure, energy, and environment
Step 5- Sip tea and enjoy millennia of Pax Brittanica while continental Europe plummets into anarchy

Cancerous thread.

I want the UK to leave because that would give a strong push to many other eurosceptic movements, which could even culminate in my own nation leaving the EU.

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 00:24

And...if the leave vote wins, does that mean Amok and Ivan get deported.

Of course not, the contention that anyone (even illegals) will be deported or forced to leave is pure propaganda by the remain camp. The referendum isn't even binding and ALL it does it give an indication of where the British people stand on this single issue. Don't believe the fear mongering

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 09:55

Kirjutas Evic, 22.06.2016 at 01:31

As long as the liberals keep importing the filth they will keep winning in elections, sad but true, this might be the last chance for UK to turn it arround before its too late.

"Filth" like Amok and Ivan

How are 2 whites who work hard apparently and contribute to the country "filth"?

I am talking about endless hordes from middle east and africa who dont work and instead live off of welfare, dont contribute to the country but instead ruin it slowly etc etc

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 15:08

Leaving the EU entails severing ties with ECJ and ECHR, resulting in EU workers that essentially have no guaranteed rights in the UK. Full sovereignty means that existing immigration law and visa requirements would likely be applied - the vast majority of workers would fail those requirements. If you believe the far-right and UKIP, which it sounds like, you would know that they absolutely despise EE immigrants in the UK, including educated workers. Second, I think your misinterpreting the meaning of non-binding; David Cameron's legitimacy rides on acting on this referendum, saying that it will not affect the actual outcome is saying UK wont leave the EU at all.

Unless you're some genius legal-analyst or literally a policy maker in Brussels, I don't know why you think you know so much more than any of the rest of us. Nobody knows what will happen to existing EU workers but many of them will likely have to leave - unless the UK suddely becomes a member of EEC. It's complicated which is why I made the joke.

You make a whole lot of assumptions here. The United States has full sovereignty and existing immigration laws/visa requirements are NOT enforced. Why should the UK be any different? I never claimed to be an expert and I realize the precise consequences of leaving the EU are unknowable. But there ARE some things we can rule out as terribly unlikely given legal precedent and the current political climate. The UK deporting it's labor force and Europeans that came to the country legally is one of those things. As for your claim that UKIP is "far-right", well I can only suggest you read a little less BBC propaganda. Seeing as UKIP's entire political platform (leaving the EU) is supported by perhaps more than 50% of the country, perhaps they aren't as radical and extreme as the media portrays them.

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 16:08

In the name of sovereignty, supporting a legally ambiguous status for European workers is dangerous; why would you want US style system where illegal immigrants benefit from the welfare state but pay nothing in taxes because they are not legal residents.

I don't want it, I was simply saying what the likely outcome would be (in the short term). Afterwards the UK government elected by BRITISH people can create their own/modify existing immigration laws.

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 16:08

"But there ARE some things we can rule out as terribly unlikely given legal precedent and the current political climate. The UK deporting it's labor force and Europeans that came to the country legally is one of those things."

If you believe that the UK will not deport existing workers, than step 1 and 2 don't make any sense; the hundreds of thousands of Romanians, Bulgarians, ect will keep living in the UK. Essentially, you support the status-quo.

They do make sense because I believe that by and large, Romanians Bulgarians etc... can and will become British and adopt British culture. I personally don't care if Britain has some non Brits provided they are British first and assimilate. This is what I mean by "reject multiculturalism". Rejecting multiculti =/ deporting all nonwhites and halting all immigration. It means controlling your borders and the assimilation of people thoughtfully and legally.

Kirjutas RaulPB, 22.06.2016 at 09:35

Idk if you guys actually think that's good in any way at all.... at least, for UK itself.

[youtube]iAgKHSNqxa8[youtube]

Call out the poisonous atmosphere by stating Jo Cox murder, proceed to degrade all leave voters as absolutely fucking mad... What an idiot John Oliver is, adding oil to the fire himself reducing the leave campaign to a racist argument and doing nothing to explore the deeper rooted problems with the EU.
The economic argument is invalid too. Britains economy will survive either way and a few years of economic hardship are a worthy price for such an immeasurable good as national sovereignity taken back from the corrupt and self-serving construct that is the EU.

Kirjutas learster, 22.06.2016 at 18:59

Kirjutas RaulPB, 22.06.2016 at 09:35

Idk if you guys actually think that's good in any way at all.... at least, for UK itself.

[youtube]iAgKHSNqxa8[youtube]

Call out the poisonous atmosphere by stating Jo Cox murder, proceed to degrade all leave voters as absolutely fucking mad... What an idiot John Oliver is, adding oil to the fire himself reducing the leave campaign to a racist argument and doing nothing to explore the deeper rooted problems with the EU.

I think what you mean is, he's milking views for his TV Show

Kirjutas learster, 22.06.2016 at 18:59

Call out the poisonous atmosphere by stating Jo Cox murder, proceed to degrade all leave voters as absolutely fucking mad... What an idiot John Oliver is, adding oil to the fire himself reducing the leave campaign to a racist argument and doing nothing to explore the deeper rooted problems with the EU.
The economic argument is invalid too. Britains economy will survive either way and a few years of economic hardship are a worthy price for such an immeasurable good as national sovereignity taken back from the corrupt and self-serving construct that is the EU.

He already stated he wouldn't go so deep in his comments but ofc, there are many problems untold in this video about the EU. I just wanted to point out that not only there are advantages within leaving the EU.

Kirjutas learster, 22.06.2016 at 18:59

The economic argument is invalid too. Britains economy will survive either way and a few years of economic hardship are a worthy price for such an immeasurable good as national sovereignity taken back from the corrupt and self-serving construct that is the EU.

Could not agree more. A possible financial shock is a small price to pay for freedom and independence. Our ancestors (clearly smarter and stronger than we are) payed for these things with their lives.

If i could vote, I would definitely vote to leave.

I just hope to god this causes a ripple effect among Europeans to rise up against the EU and leave as well. This could be the first step to saving ourselves.

Kirjutas Earthbound, 22.06.2016 at 22:34

Although I'm definitely in the 'stay' camp, I can understand why a country like the UK, Denmark, or Switzerland would want to leave. Without being a part of the Eurozone, you're kind of shafted when it comes to the benefits of the EU as a whole.

Now, if a Eurozone country such as Greece left, that would be a far more dangerous outcome; and for that matter, it would be pretty stupid.

The UK doesn't want to be part of the eurozone because that is one step closer to giving up sovereignty which is why the UK got a special deal to not have to join it and to be able to keep it's own currency.

I think we should leave but I bet £100 we will stay in

No Brexit, Russia need EU united so we can sign one treaty and not 30 different. It will be simplier to influence and control EU. If one agreement is signed between EU and Russia that mean Russian trade will reach Portugal and Ireland. Russian transporters will have to pay road tariff only once, instead 30 times when driving across Europe. Gas and Oil deals with affect whole EU, instead only Germany. Russian tourists will have universal discount instead paying various prices in 'independent' mediteranean countries.

Militarily: 'independent' european countries would have their own military plans and armies, which leads to confrontation and conflict, like Baltic, Poland, Ukraine. with united EU, countries like France and Czech for example will not tolerate Baltic and Polish military buildup and spam for cash and arms, that leads to instability and hardship.

Stay united for Russia. It's not like EU is bad, atleast you have nice flag

Kirjutas Skanderbeg, 23.06.2016 at 07:19

No Brexit, Russia need EU united so we can sign one treaty and not 30 different. It will be simplier to influence and control EU. If one agreement is signed between EU and Russia that mean Russian trade will reach Portugal and Ireland. Russian transporters will have to pay road tariff only once, instead 30 times when driving across Europe. Gas and Oil deals with affect whole EU, instead only Germany. Russian tourists will have universal discount instead paying various prices in 'independent' mediteranean countries.

Militarily: 'independent' european countries would have their own military plans and armies, which leads to confrontation and conflict, like Baltic, Poland, Ukraine. with united EU, countries like France and Czech for example will not tolerate Baltic and Polish military buildup and spam for cash and arms, that leads to instability and hardship.

Stay united for Russia. It's not like EU is bad, atleast you have nice flag

Damn, you are indeed a fag lmao

Anyone wanting to understand why the vote to leave is so important I suggest watching this documentary on the EU's role in the Greek debt crisis:

Granted it's rather long, but it's not like most people here have better things to do.

Too close to call!

Kirjutas learster, 23.06.2016 at 15:44

Granted it's rather long, but it's not like most people here have better things to do.

Stimulating our body parts can be considered a good thing to do, because it's healthy!

The fact that this brexit has caused Merica's stock market to be more unstable than usual solidies my hatred for the UK.

Damn Europeans always complicating things.

LEAVE! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

Guys are you serious??????
they use my country to make dumb fat pale drunked british people to vote to leave
if my country join EU,i will move to live in GERMANY or AUSTRIA
British people are shitty arrogant
British country is so shit terrible weather and food
thats why there so many british living outside in other eu countries

if i was leader in eu i will kick out uk
we dont need fucking morons in eu

in end msg to Small Britania
Macedonia,Albania,Serbia,Montenegro and Turkey
is a thousand times better place to live compared to Britain