21.11.2014 - 05:12
In history, there is no such thing as a right opinion. World War 1 happened. That's a fact. World War 2 happened. That's also a fact. Why did they happen? Now that's infinitely debatable opinion. I can argue that the Mongol Empire in the 12th~13th Century is responsible for World War 1. After all, if they just took the trouble to work out stable succession laws, neither of the world wars would have happened!
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21.11.2014 - 05:34
So are you of the opinion that Russia was acting wrongly when it invaded Austria, when Austria didn't declare war on Russia? That Britain declared war on Germany when Germany didn't even send one soldier onto the British isles? As I said, infinitely debatable.
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21.11.2014 - 05:57 Black Shark Konto kustutatud >Treaty of London >Russia wanted to protect Serbia
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21.11.2014 - 06:00
By that logic: Austria-Hungary wanted compensation for the murder of Archduke Ferdinand.
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21.11.2014 - 06:25
This is where all have gone wrong actually, killing of the Obrenović family who was pro-austrian. Why would they prosecute anyone who put them to power and who killed off their rival royal family? ...they didnt have their fingers in this? Serbian royalty has been killing each other, brothers and fathers butchered to gain power trough centuries. Of course Austria knew about the Karađorđević pretenses on Bosnia and other lands and about the Russia pulling the strings. Assassination was just an excuse Austria needed to start a war against the Serbian expansionistic policy. It did interest me on why Serbia declined London threaty offers ...and from what i understand is that yugo-slavic stream won over in serbian circles, the King was convinced that serbia should be the one to join all the slavs in one country and that this was the course that they should go for. Problem was the Croats ...who had a different idea about slavs joining in one country. How much the London offers were real, we will never know since they were revised and changed at the end of the war.
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21.11.2014 - 08:01
nah, the austrian price went to a bosnian city, with a serbian minority...should putin be killed if he goes to eastern ukraine? and don't tell me there is a difference inbetween these two, it's the exact same thing -_- well...yes? it lost a lot of land and it became socialist in WW1...they were de facto loosers of WW1
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21.11.2014 - 08:16
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP PLEASE IS ANNONYIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP ok after shout is time to clarify some facts: 1. AMERICA IS A CONTINENT, NOT A COUNTRY. Therefore, all arguments refereed to america is wrong here. 2. Serbia started WW2. Austria wanted to investigate, and Serbia decline. Why would they decline? Nice infinite argumentation. Germany asked russia to stop moving troops. After Russia didn't stopped, Germany declares war - clear as this. Blame russia for not stop moving troops. 3. Mao zedong killed more people that all the dictator together, using the collectivism camps for "make more iron than UK" .... but he is communist, he is claimed as a God. 4. FRANCE was preparing for war since their lost against prussia in the franco-Prussienne Wars. It was obvious that they would motivate any kind of fight against germany, even if they had to ally with their long-lasting enemy (uk).
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21.11.2014 - 09:23
wikipedia: Sunni Muslims 29,649 (37.9%) Roman Catholic Christians 21,373 (27.3%) Serbian Orthodox Christians 18,630 (23.8%) :3 well, the Austrian prince went to a place that it occupied at the moment, bosnia, with minorities that didnt like him. Putin going to eastern ukraine (you can take crimea too, its just an example) so, what exactly would russia do if putin got killed in eastern ukraine? There are many minorities in crimea and eastern ukraine that hate their occupators, just like in bosnia 1914 with the austrian prince. also, putin himself admitted that russian soldiers are having "holidays" in eastern ukraine and that the seperatists in crimea were russian soldiers, so...some similarities, i'd say enough to say that the same scenario could happen again and who needs to fight it's enemy, when you can make your enemy kill itself by sending just one man to destroy an empire...
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21.11.2014 - 10:41 Black Shark Konto kustutatud So Russia officialy took Eastern Ukraine? Holy crap >inb4 ww3 we dead lads illuminati finally did
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21.11.2014 - 10:44
Thats just a nice way of saying we wanted does territories to expaned our kingdom. And the thing is where ever Serbs lived they consider it their territory ...they are not Austrian Serbs, they are not Croatian Serbs ...they are Serbs who are divided from their motherland and who want to live in one country, one Serbia.
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21.11.2014 - 11:33
you keep in mind, that bosnia herzegowina (or however its spelled) had many more bosniaks compared to serbs than sarajevo. aaah, we looked at the same website, but i looked at the city, you at the metropolian region...we both took the numbers that was at our benefits saw it in TV, but here you go: http://rt.com/news/crimea-defense-russian-soldiers-108/ http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/vladimir-putin-admits-russian-forces-helped-crimea-separatists-n82756 http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/russia-putin-crimea-idUKL6N0N921H20140417 HAH, found another similarity. when bosnia herzegowina declared independance from yugoslawia, serbs boycotted the referendum, thats the same thing as what the crimea tartares (20% of the crimean population) did about the russian referendum also, please stay on topic, so, you admit that there is a similarity between those two scenarios?
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21.11.2014 - 12:30
Such inconsistency ...first you claimed Austria gave Serbs right, Austria loved serbs, Austria gave them land, but now all of the sudden they are second class citizen? Austria libarated Bosnia ...Bosnia was not Serbia or exclusive serbian land, but separate kingdom submited to Hungary and Croats wanted Bosnia returned to them joining it with Kingdom Of Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia. Hungars of course always opposed any joined Croatian lands and Austro-hungary Serbs supported Hungars ...thank you brothers.
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21.11.2014 - 13:33
meh, balkaans look like this anyways: however, Quote from wikipedia: The Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People called for a boycott of the referendum in german wikipedia it says about bosnia: 63 % tournout, 99,4% for independance. i'd say thats at least as verified as the crim referendum. also i found more polandballs, you'll like this one:
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21.11.2014 - 15:08
WTFAMIREADING Germans were afraid of 'superior' Slavic culture? Slavs do have a good history but this is your zenith of bullshit, Tito. German culture is arguably the most superior of Europe. In actual fact, it's likely the most superior in the world. A recent poll showed people around the world considered Germany to be the greatest country in the world.
ITS THE GERMANS. THE GERMANS ARE THE BANE OF THE WORLD! MY RABBI TOLD ME SO!!!
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why Tito posts. All of that bullshit so he could write a single sentence of of mistruth of such magnitude, three paragraphs of shit were required before it could be presented. Why does Tito hate Germans so much? Why can't he even type the word Fascism or Fascist? Why does he claim Jews did nothing at all? What is Titos ethnicity? Who pays him to post here? What is his agenda? You'd be very surprised by the sorts of people who get paid to post on obscure areas of the web whose user base consists of young European males. The key word here is 'misdirection.' Stephan isn't the best. His anarcho views are still childish but his videos give great insight into things.
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21.11.2014 - 15:18
Propaganda is more potent when repeating. Like most progressive rhetoric, it isn't based in fact. SO it must be repeated over and over. Otherwise known as the Big Lie, coined by Goebbels and Hitler, but used as a description of specifically Jewish media. Crimean's were given two options, neither of which stated that could remain part of Ukraine. 97% is a bullshit number. The UN was prevented from entering Crimea to justify it and so called 'independent' investigators like the Finnish investigation team was actually a group of Finnish Communist Leninist's. So unbiased, right? This is one of the most devious issues with Tito and people like him. Well described in the video above. He has no empathy, he is a sociopath. He can happily lie so blatantly, he can cross entire spectrums of political views despite their contradiction and present them without questioning them in the slightest.. When called out on this, his response is to call you a nazi and waffle on about something completely unrelated. He will claim a moral high ground of 'democracy' in Crimea despite being clearly undemocratic. He will then decry Democracies in the West and call them rigged His support of the Crimean election and his decrying of the Scottish referendum are perfect examples of this hypocrisy. But his reaction will be to call me a nazi (not a Fascist, he FEARS that word. It represents legitimacy. Tito is a lot smarter than you think) and not give a proper rebuttal to the point. I#m predicting what he will do so his response will be comedic. He will simply call me a nazi and 'lol.' After reading this response, he will have no choice and post a doubly ironic post involving 'nazi and 'lol.' Watch and see.
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21.11.2014 - 15:24
lol, polandball=funnies? and no he didnt, srsly, he went to a city in that the majority of people didnt hate him like serbs
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21.11.2014 - 15:27
stop copy+pasting+adding brithish superior english to my comment on page 1 -_-
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21.11.2014 - 15:34
Funny as fuck... Like I said, jokingly avoids these questions. "GERMANS ARE EVIL, MY RABBI TOLD ME, RUSSIANS PAID ME!" I'm not a nazi. I am a Fascist. Grow some balls and call me what I am. A Fascist. Say Fascist!
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21.11.2014 - 15:35
no, not at all, i felt insulted when i read that btw
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21.11.2014 - 15:42
All your fuckin posts are heavily based on patheticism and victimization. Books were written (i provided you before with a link) about people like you and how the serbs heavily use victimization and even consider themselfs as some european jews. Its all written black on white ...your disorder and sickness is known to the world and so are your lies.
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21.11.2014 - 15:44
if 65% dont hate you and 35% hate you, the majority doesnt hate you ._______. so, if i go kill putin, when he is in berlin the next time, he got sacrificed like a lamb because russia wanted WW3?
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21.11.2014 - 15:45
Wish we stayed in the Austrian empire ...i wouldnt fuckin mind speaking german now. HEAR THAT TITO !!!!
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21.11.2014 - 15:50
read the shit i quoted, if you insult someone, other people will conclude you hate them
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21.11.2014 - 16:43
if you say something like "germany started WW1" thats an opinion, that many people share, but most people dont. most people agree, that its a result of mistakes different countries did. that doesnt hurt. you know what hurts? when you talk bullshit like: "German philosophers, poems and historians like Ranke and Goethe learned serbian so they can translate serbian poems to german and teach that in schools." quote - Tito thats the kind of shit that makes me go: are you mindfuck? like, seriously? did someone stick a dick into your ear, cum, and this is the result? one of my grandfathers was so short-sighted that he couldnt fight, even with glasses and the other one was a child at the age of 13 when WW2 ended. your psychology lesson a: doesnt have a point. and b: it is partially wrong because goblin doesnt defend his grandfathers, he defends his nation! (quote tito: it's about sacraficing one for one's nation)
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21.11.2014 - 16:46
ok.
1.ok so I guess you are referring to whole america right? because we are not even white... but also our small whiteness comes from spain, not germany. 2. Ya I confused WW2 with WW1, my bad. But the fact that the criminal organization had links with the serbian government is enough for austria to not trust them. I am not serbian or austria, I dont know more than I' ve read. But I would like to hear the truth from someone different. Also I dont think serbia would ever care for investigate about it, would they? If your father dies I dont think you would ever wait one day without know about him... nvm I am not intend to know your relationship with your family so let just skip it and say, francisco fernando ( idk his name in english) was very important for austria. 3. Of course that is important. Would you feel safe if a criminal gets near your house? LOL. Moving massive amount of troops to a frontier is a very good indicator, but not totally correct, of war. Maybe russia knew german's alliance with austria and started to move troops for invade germany, while germany also knew serbian alliance. >Austria is going to war serbia. > Russia is serbian's ally > Germany is austrian's ally. > Russia start moving up troops to germany. It cannot be more obvious.... even though it does not prove russia wanted to war germany, it does prove that russia wanted to feel safe and gang bag on austria. 4. ok, I want to know your point of view. What do you think about Mao Zedong's policy? Because I cannot decline I read it on wikipedia, a "USA's propaganda". But indeed, unless you can prove it wrong, I'l take up the fact that he killed a lot of people trying to equal and bypass UK in the production of Iron. He himself recognized his own polite as a "fail". Collectivism only works when you have a great mind like russia.... else china or north korea just fail at it. 5. ok, I read it from my book. And the book is well-recognized and I consider it as a quality book. But if you really want to discuss about it, go talk with the company who made it. If I remember correctly, It was somenthing like this: [traduced from spanish] "France was getting ready for war german empire since their lost in the french-prussian war. It was very humillated for french's people that the german empire used the versalle's palace for proclame theirselves. [...] France even allied with his long-lasting rival, United Kingdoms, and both made The Entere Cordiale (idk in english about this, so I just put it as it was... in french). [...] The amount of desertors in the french's army during WW1 was less than 1%, compared to the 30% in the french-prussian war.
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21.11.2014 - 19:15
tito crying again and again and again like a little bitch while he insults and lies like no one i have ever meet. You know ...why dont you tell us your nationality first, because im done discussing with you like your a serbian. Only your views and words are of worst serbian amateur historians and chauvinists. Let me know your tribe so i can shit over them and you ...cmon dont be a fuckin coward hidding behind serbs ,slavs or other shit. I
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21.11.2014 - 20:35
i heavily believe that tito is secretly a troll, and he only fakes to act like this to start flame wars.
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22.11.2014 - 08:01
I dont hate the serbs ...i dilike your fascist serbian propaganda and chauvinism. There the diference so dont put all of normal serbian people under your fascist views. WW1 serbian extremists cant stand the idea of Austria giving more freedom and autonomy to Croats in the empire - kills the man who wanted to give us that Serbs always supported Hungars and their pretenses on our soil ...thank you brothers Serbs fighting for turks for centuries against europe and christian armies. WW2 croat extremists killed 300,000 serbs because of 30 years of abuse and terror over croatian people - no denying this since great minds like Albert einstein talked about this Chetniks started killing and burning Croatian villages already in 1939. because serbian king gave croats Banovina - RADICAL SERBS COULDNT STAND AGAIN EVEN A TINY CROAT AUTHONOMY Yugo wars - Serb rebels influenced by Serbian radical party propaganda ethnicly cleanse Krajina from all croats, commiting genocide and bombing destroying our country Serbs left, running away from Krajina on their own ....Serbian troops run over their own civilians with their tanks. Thank you brothers ...real brothers, they kick you over and over again but cry when you strike them back. Thank you for proving again and showing your real face of serbian extremism hidding behind some slavic brotherhood ...there is no brotherhood without respect and serbs never respected the croats. And im not going again in another loop of the same conversations over and over again with you repeating your bullshit of patheticism and always being a victim. good fuckin bye.
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22.11.2014 - 09:50
So much bullshit i cant even stand rading it, lie after a lie that your low inteligent mind was feed all your life and raised to hate anything that isnt serbian. Dont talk about croatian history ...you dont know anything about it except from what your read in anti-croatian litarature filled with lies. Advice to you ...stop crying like a little bitch with your patheticism and victimization and all while shamelessly defending or finding sick excuses for crimes and attrocities commited by nations you favor. Come on quote me again Engels and Karl Marx like you did before ...two sick idiots who wanted all serbs and croats dead. Shows how stupid you are.
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22.11.2014 - 09:52
I love how Tito doesn't address the millions of deaths caused by communism and human made famine.
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Oled sa kindel?